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Default Presidential Candidates - Where they stand on Global Warming

Here is a chart of all the candidates and where they stand on climate warming issues.

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Considering the advocating position is becoming less and less certain with more research being done, I couldn't possibly support any candidate that would sign into law emissions caps and trade deals that would put the US at an unfair disadvantage. Kyoto was pure politics, in that countries that were "developing" were exempted from any caps, and the ideals pitched in Bali will be equally ridiculous. If all nations aren't held to those standards then it's impossible to claim to be trying to avert any "catastrophe."

With each passing week, more and more research appears in the scientific journals that casts more doubt on the position that "the debate is over," and a "scientific consensus" has been reached, and that everything says we need to act now to avert "catastrophe." Catastrophe is the least likely of any scenario, and even serious harm being done is considered unlikely. Sea levels aren't rising any faster, polar bears aren't going extinct, tropical cyclones aren't becoming more frequent or intensifying outside historical norms (in fact, science is becoming sure that these are cyclical and intensity isn't dependent on sea surface temperatures alone), and the thermohaline and gulf streams aren't being interrupted. No catastrophe is in the offing due to human emission of greenhouse gasses.

To vote for someone foolish enough to believe such nonsense is irrational at best---and asking for trouble.
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Considering the advocating position is becoming less and less certain with more research being done, I couldn't possibly support any candidate that would sign into law emissions caps and trade deals that would put the US at an unfair disadvantage. Kyoto was pure politics, in that countries that were "developing" were exempted from any caps, and the ideals pitched in Bali will be equally ridiculous. If all nations aren't held to those standards then it's impossible to claim to be trying to avert any "catastrophe."

With each passing week, more and more research appears in the scientific journals that casts more doubt on the position that "the debate is over," and a "scientific consensus" has been reached, and that everything says we need to act now to avert "catastrophe." Catastrophe is the least likely of any scenario, and even serious harm being done is considered unlikely. Sea levels aren't rising any faster, polar bears aren't going extinct, tropical cyclones aren't becoming more frequent or intensifying outside historical norms (in fact, science is becoming sure that these are cyclical and intensity isn't dependent on sea surface temperatures alone), and the thermohaline and gulf streams aren't being interrupted. No catastrophe is in the offing due to human emission of greenhouse gasses.

To vote for someone foolish enough to believe such nonsense is irrational at best---and asking for trouble.
I pretty much agree with that.

Romney's position looks reasonable to me.
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It will be interesting to see what the new Australian Goverment do on Climate Change. The new Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has put it on the top of his agenda but it is hard it commit too much without the US and China on board. Going along without them will put pressure on exports as Australias cost will go up but not the others/
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It will be interesting to see what the new Australian Goverment do on Climate Change. The new Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has put it on the top of his agenda but it is hard it commit too much without the US and China on board. Going along without them will put pressure on exports as Australias cost will go up but not the others/
Then, perhaps, it would behoove Australia to examine why it should sign on to such a horribly flawed treaty like Kyoto, or participate in the Bali negotiations. If the US, China, and several other nations aren't going to participate (or the protocol looks like it will give "developing nations" a free pass again), then Australians should consider what's in their national interests.
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