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Old 02-17-2010, 11:51 AM
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Well, with all the armed robberies in the area lately and the fact that I am alone tonight, I am extremely glad I have my loaded S&W .38 sitting about
3' away from me right now!


So lets see, the police station is 5-6 miles away. The phone is 5' away and my gun is 3' away.

I'm going with the gun, then the phone.
WTG falena, although I am sorry you are alone, (:-{ you certainly have the right idea. Especially after the Supreme Court has said the police are not responsible for preventing a crime against you. (or me) \

We have the responsibility of defending ourselves, and especially our families if we have one.
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Sorry with this all too late thought that's probably been much better said before.

I'm struggling with the name of this post...why either. The best thing to do is hunker down, don't be a hero, with your weapon in a defensive position. Call the police and wait. Let those who are trained and experienced handle situations that require a gun, unless absolutely necessary otherwise. No one can tell you when to use your gun without walking in your shoes, but be mentally prepared to do both, and practice doesn't hurt either. Also, and importantly, have a plan when the police arrive to separate you from the bad guys quickly and effectively in their eyes.

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Apologize for the vagueness of the statement. I failed to supply the quote for context.
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[color="DarkRed"][b] The anti- gun lobby has long sought to relegate gun ownership rights to the states , where they have a better chance to restrict legal firearm ownership , by whatever hook and crook legislation they hope they can get passed...

The right of every US citizen to Keep and Bear Arms is NOT a state issue , it never has been....and the tactic of making legal gun ownership a case of the state militia is a total fabrication of lies and more lies by the anti-gun lobby...

It is an attack on the US Constitution , and the Bill of Rights...

When the citizens of the USA are allowed to be legally armed , then , in my opinion , the USA will never be overun , whether that be by foreign invasion or by internal treason , the citizens will have the wherewithall to save our country , and , in my humble opinion , that is what our Founding Fathers envisioned when they penned the Bill of Rights...

That's the way I see it... OLOR]




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Many people seem to think that gun control means gun prohibition; it doesn't.

Gun control is a States' right in the US while gun prohibition is not, due to the Second Amendment and it's exemption from State gun control laws of individuals who keep and bear Arms and are well regulated, as in a Militia of such individuals.
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I only know this from tv,cant everyone or anyone make a citizens arrest? Just tie them up and wait for the cops.
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I only know this from tv,cant everyone or anyone make a citizens arrest? Just tie them up and wait for the cops.
Thinking you're going to do something you're not trained for is very problematic. Does the average person know and train how to secure his weapon while securing a person ? Having a criminal hold still sedately happens only in TV dramas. Stay in a defensive position and wait for the professionals.
Arresting someone, even a criminal, is an act that assumes deadly force is an option.....most people are not trained or experienced to do it. Unless they have already been part and trained in several felony arrests,( their own doesn't count), don't attempt it. TV dramas are the worse place to get your information. Do you really know what it's like to discharge a firearm inside, in the dark. TV dramas don't even portray that effectively.

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The right of every US citizen to Keep and Bear Arms is NOT a state issue , it never has been....and the tactic of making legal gun ownership a case of the state militia is a total fabrication of lies and more lies by the anti-gun lobby...


When the citizens of the USA are allowed to be legally armed , then , in my opinion , the USA will never be overun , whether that be by foreign invasion or by internal treason , the citizens will have the wherewithall to save our country , and , in my humble opinion , that is what our Founding Fathers envisioned when they penned the Bill of Rights...

Tflagus: OLOR]
This is where I came in. Though I agree with you completely in principle, my point has always been that the Bill of Rights does indeed support the right of the individual to protect him/herself...but the weaponry to be use should, but seldom is, included in the debate. As soon as it is, the anti-anti gun folks make it a " take one type of gun, you take them all issue" it collapses into a black/white issue.
Even you, I'm willing to say are in favor of some form of gun control,unless it's OK for the totally blind, the youth and harden criminals free access to automatic weapons. Let's have a real debate about what the public should be educated, trained and encouraged to use for a firearm and under what circumstances.
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