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About LinkBacksHe is guilty in my mind and many others, however, he has the right to due process.Originally Posted by Danct
He is guilty in my mind and many others, however, he has the right to due process.
"The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion dollars for the first 42 presidents — number 43 added $4 trillion dollars by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. It’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic!" - Barack Hussein Obama
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Atta-boy! There's hope for you yet.
Guns don't kill people, Bullets kill people.
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"The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion dollars for the first 42 presidents — number 43 added $4 trillion dollars by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. It’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic!" - Barack Hussein Obama
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What is the name of this so-called treaty, and what specifically does it say? Until this is covered here you're only peeing in the wind with suppositions and fearful hyperbole.
Facts ARE important.
Guns don't kill people, Bullets kill people.
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Good lord. This small arms treaty nonsense has been floating around for far too long. The Arms Trade Treaty the myth is based upon is a concept from the UN and has no relationship to any bills in that I am aware of that exist in any stage in Congress.
I would love to see exactly what bill is being suggested as the instrument for getting this treaty passed.
People, please realize that there is still such a thing as the Constitution. The right to keep and bear arms is still a fundamental right under Constitutional Law. Read Reid v. Covert. The Supreme Court established that the Constitution supersedes international treaties ratified by the U.S. Senate.
Last edited by Foghlai; Jan 17 2012 at 06:32 PM.
I do not believe that the UN Small Arms Treaty has been published yet. They are still working out the details. The Obama Administration supports it, but fortunately, it would take an act of Congress to make it binding to the U.S. This is extremely unlikely.
Yes, we are protected by our Constitution. I am not really worried that this Treaty would ever impact us. I just don't get why the Obama Administration would support a UN Treaty that they know would not receive support. I suppose they want to appease the UN for some reason.
Zimbabwe remains the only opposition vote to the Treaty.
"The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion dollars for the first 42 presidents — number 43 added $4 trillion dollars by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. It’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic!" - Barack Hussein Obama
Guru
Flawed logic, friend. You are assuming the UN has a power it does not actually possess. Are we to believe that every country except Zimbabwe is trying to appease the UN? Really?
Look, you could really help yourself as to this issue with factual knowledge.
Guns don't kill people, Bullets kill people.
This is nothing new. I have already mentioned in my previous post about Congress having to authorize it.
"The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion dollars for the first 42 presidents — number 43 added $4 trillion dollars by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. It’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic!" - Barack Hussein Obama
Guru
Yes, a 2/3 vote by the Senate would be needed for the U.S. to ratify it.
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
--C. S. Lewis, God in the Dock, p. 292.
Guru
Then you didn't real all of it. It goes into the reasons behind the future Treaty, and interestingly, none of them were because Obama wishes to appease the UN.
Educate yourself, friend before you form your opinions.
Guns don't kill people, Bullets kill people.
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