same here BillyBob , the fact is there is no bill of needs, it's a bill of rights and we have the right to guns period.

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End of story. The mods may now close this thread.

case closed.

Your Second Ammendment does not say you "have the right to guns period."

It says that the people have a right to keep and bear Arms because a well regulated Militia is necessary to the security of a free state

It doesn't specify what those arms were. It certainly doesn't say you have any right to own rocket launchers, or nuclear missiles, or automatic or semi-automatic weapons. Or a gun or any sort. Considering when the Bill of Rights were written - they were probably referring to some flintlock muzzle-loading jobbie. And are you a member of any well regulated Militia? That appears to be the main pre-requisite for this right to bear "arms"

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Right..

WRONG.

The Flintlock mussle-loaders were some of the best weapons of the time they realised citizens needed them to preserve there freedom. In the ages of machine guns and pistols how the hell would a small calibre single loading rifle be able to keep the security of a free state?!? hmm??

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Even if it wasn't in the Constitution and more specifically the Bill of Rights, I have the natural right to self-defense by whatever means necessary. I don't care if the government sanctions it or not. They can't give me rights. Only protect them.

Why is one statement there right, but the other wrong?

Why do you think the 2nd Amendment gives a right to own an automatic or semi-automatic firearm - but not a rocket launcher, or nuclear missile?

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Are missles and nukes classified as 'arms'?

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It does not say because a well regulated Militia is necessary. The wording of the text is as such.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

The commas tell all here. They are clearly talking about two separate issues. To fully understand who they were saying should have arms. You have to look at what the founding fathers said about them. They all agreed that the people need them.

Red is actually right here.

As has already been said, it does not specify, so they meant all arms.

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