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Old 06-03-2008, 08:38 PM
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i just believe that guns should be banned, available only to the military. I don't really care if it is a liberal ideal that is totaltarian. Sometimes totaltarian governments do good to people, there just has not been a good one in existance, that i know of, in this world. This type of government could also just as easily be corrupted and kill its own people, which is most of the totaltarian governments in this world in the past and the present.
That is the dumbest idea I have ever heard.

How do you expect to get rid of all the firearms that already exist? How do you plan on stopping criminals (ya know those people that do not obey the law) from getting them? How do honest people defend themselves from criminals? If and I stress the IF, the government starts hitting honest people, how will they protect themselves?

Dumbest idea ever. Totally idiotic.
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:20 PM
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the idea was not to kill off criminals compleately, the idea was to tone down the level of violence. criminals can never be brought down. This is a concept that would never work in any country who has guns currently. this is obviously an idealistic concept, that would probably never work in the world, unless a new country is developed. How does one protect themselves from criminals? pepperspray, carrying knives with you(im in support of this because its at close range, no accidents/stray bullets), and anyother close range weapons.
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Old 06-04-2008, 06:37 AM
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How does one protect themselves from criminals? pepperspray, carrying knives with you(im in support of this because its at close range, no accidents/stray bullets), and anyother close range weapons.
Ive been hit with OC. It does not stop a determined person. According to the stats. Those that resisted with a firearm were only harmed 6% of the time. Those that resisted with a knife were hamed 49% of the time. There are fewer innocent injuries (percentage wise) from civilians using a firearm in defense than cops using one.

Think what you want. A 6'6" 230 pound man with nothing has an advantage over a 5’1” 100 pound 70 year old woman with a knife or OC spray.

Your logic is seriously flawed.
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umm...i was trying to think up of a user name, and i like the star wars movies, so i decided to pick that one, it really has no political meaning
like a Freudian Slip?
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i just believe that guns should be banned, available only to the military.
After the Port Arthur massacre, the Government introduced a gun 'buy back' scheme. Guns were banned and the owners were refuned the cost of what they paid for it.

Since then, there have been more shootings each year than all the years BEFORE guns were banned.
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After the Port Arthur massacre, the Government introduced a gun 'buy back' scheme. Guns were banned and the owners were refuned the cost of what they paid for it.

Since then, there have been more shootings each year than all the years BEFORE guns were banned.
And were not even allowed to use them for self defence!!!!!
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And were not even allowed to use them for self defence!!!!!
That is messed up. What Makedde said, too.
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After the Port Arthur massacre, the Government introduced a gun 'buy back' scheme. Guns were banned and the owners were refuned the cost of what they paid for it.

Since then, there have been more shootings each year than all the years BEFORE guns were banned.
It sounds like you are finally starting to come around.
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Luckily Aussies can still take vacations to New Zealand where gun control is less strict.
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THAT'S LUCK?

Try living in North Carolina USA ...

where EVERY COUNTY except one you can carry a fire arm openly WITHOUT a carry permit ...

... it can NOT be hidden with out a concealed carry permit ... but on your car seat - no problem so long as you are legally allowed to own fire arms ...

to buy fire arms here - you go to the Sheriffs office and request up to 5 purchase permits

they run a background check on you and so long as you still have the right to own them - they will sell you them for $5.00 each

nice and easy
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