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Old 06-16-2008, 05:23 PM
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It's just amazing that people are so ignorant of history and the purpose of the 2nd Amendment. The founding fathers were clear in their writings what the 2nd amendment was intended for: protection against government tyranny, and deterring any invading force. Of course the right to hunt was a given back then, as were most self-evident rights concerning survival in its basic form. "Arms" refers to weapons. Specifically weapons capable of fulfilling the need for protection against all governments, foreign and domestic. Flintlocks don't cut it anymore, and the founders were well aware that technology increases over time. The term "arms" refers to whatever people are using to kill each other these days. So, yes, we have the god-given right to bear hand grenades, tanks, missiles, etc, because the bar is set that high in 2008.
We agree that the 2nd secures all free men's right to bear arms. But please look into what they said and their stances on it to see all the reasons for securing that right.

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This story caught my eye earlier today...

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/06/16/....ap/index.html

Killing spree with a knife? I thought that was impossible! (/sarcasm)
Oh just wait for the left to pop in here with their arguments. They are frigging hilarious.
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After the Port Arthur massacre, the Government introduced a gun 'buy back' scheme. Guns were banned and the owners were refuned the cost of what they paid for it.

Since then, there have been more shootings each year than all the years BEFORE guns were banned.
Well what do you expect from Tasi? The prisoners of Uk went to aus and the prisoners from there straight to tasi. For port Arthur i blame in breeding not guns.
Anyway how are we supposed to protect ourself from young gangsters like Vietnamese Arabs and Abos at night???

Well if you make guns Illegal only Illegal s will have guns!!! and thats a no no
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Well what do you expect from Tasi? The prisoners of Uk went to aus and the prisoners from there straight to tasi. For port Arthur i blame in breeding not guns.
So you are saying that Martin Bryant was a victim of incest?
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So you are saying that Martin Bryant was a victim of incest?
how else could a person have an IQ of 66?
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how else could a person have an IQ of 66?
He was found with over 200 teddy bears in his house. The massacre proved nothing about the dangers of guns only that of retarded people!
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I never heard of him until it was mentioned here ... so I Googled it ... what a mess!

UNFORTUNATELY; there are a lot of less stable people who are getting very frustrated and unable to withstand an emotional urge to react ...
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When you step back and think about it, the idea is insane. I don't think I'll ever purchase a gun in my life, but its good to know that if I feel threatened, I could go and purchase one (I don't think I'm old enough yet, but you get the idea). Not to mention, after the government takes away your right to have guns, what can you stop them from taking away next?


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how else could a person have an IQ of 66?
He could have been mentally challenged, who knows?

The fact that Bryant had an IQ of 66 and the intellectual age of an 11 year old has always made me believe he should not have received such a harsh sentence.

I might start a separate thread about this issue, it might be something worthwhile debating about.
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He was found with over 200 teddy bears in his house. The massacre proved nothing about the dangers of guns only that of retarded people!
Martin Bryant was nothing more than a child.

I hear he tried to kill himself about a dozen times. He's been moved that many times to different prisons I don't think anyone even knows where the guy is.
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