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Old 12-14-2006, 03:58 PM
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what about the criminals?
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Old 12-15-2006, 02:58 AM
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"Until then, run along to the grocery store, Oh Master of Skills and Man among Men!, use your debit card to catch supper."

LMAO!

It never fails to amaze me the amount of people that find hunting barbaric.
That some how, by paying Publix or Pigly Wigly to kill, cut up, and package their meat that these people are somehow not responsible for that animals death.

The best argument that I have heard is, "It is what civilized people do".
So what are meat packers and butchers? Their agents of death?

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Very funny! The gun control issue is a mute point. The Constitution and Bill of Right is very clear. The anti gunners on here are just very ignorant to history. We must console and pity them.

For they not know what they speak of. Nor do they know history.

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Old 03-03-2008, 01:51 AM
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Very funny! The gun control issue is a mute point. The Constitution and Bill of Right is very clear. The anti gunners on here are just very ignorant to history. We must console and pity them.

For they not know what they speak of. Nor do they know history.

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Remember, it isnt a RIGHT...it is a priveledge...plus the constitutions stipulates arms exclusive purpose is to contribute to a "well formed and regulated militia". Btw, if you havent noticed, we do not live in the 18th century anymore.

Everyone knows what they speak of, pro-con, whatever...that is why it is an issue.

Sure, guns are bad...but what happens when in a country like the USA everything is so out of control, no real checks and balances and there ends up more illegal guns out there than registered? If you wanted to eliminate guns, you would have to take it out of the hands of the criminals, illegal stock piles, corrupted officials "depot sales"....impossible. Might as well balance the equation out with those who obtain their firearms legally and under registration.
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Remember, it isnt a RIGHT...it is a priveledge...
Nope, it's a right.



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plus the constitutions stipulates arms exclusive purpose is to contribute to a "well formed and regulated militia".
No, here's what it really say:



A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Funny how you conveniently left that part out.




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Btw, if you havent noticed, we do not live in the 18th century anymore.
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Sure, guns are bad...
How can an inanimate object be bad?
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Nope, it's a right.





No, here's what it really say:



A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Funny how you conveniently left that part out.






So?






How can an inanimate object be bad?
NO, its a priveledge...not a right....just like your priveledge to drive, vote, etc. its not a right. it is at the mercy of the government if they give it or take it....not everyone can own a gun, drive, vote, etc. get it straight.

how can an inanimate object be bad? like yellow cake, a nuclear bomb, cocaine, anthrax, etc etc. poof....in order to have a theory, you have to be able to make sure there isnt anything that negates the content, otherwise, its done. your logic failed.
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NO, its a priveledge...not a right....just like your priveledge to drive, vote, etc. its not a right. it is at the mercy of the government if they give it or take it....not everyone can own a gun, drive, vote, etc. get it straight.
You obviously know nothing about the Constitution. Here's a hint, it's not called the 'Bill Of Privileges'.

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how can an inanimate object be bad? like yellow cake, a nuclear bomb, cocaine,
None of those things are 'bad'. Cocaine can be used in surgery as a numbing agent. Nuclear bombs were used to end WWII and to keep Russia from attacking the US during the cold war. Yellow cake is good with the right type of frosting.

The point is that inanimate objects themselves aren't good or bad, the way humans use them is what can be described as good or bad.




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anthrax,
Anthrax is not an inanimate object.



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etc etc. poof....in order to have a theory, you have to be able to make sure there isnt anything that negates the content, otherwise, its done. your logic failed.
Not so fast, cupcake. Look again.
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Old 03-03-2008, 04:41 AM
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You obviously know nothing about the Constitution. Here's a hint, it's not called the 'Bill Of Privileges'.



None of those things are 'bad'. Cocaine can be used in surgery as a numbing agent. Nuclear bombs were used to end WWII and to keep Russia from attacking the US during the cold war. Yellow cake is good with the right type of frosting.

The point is that inanimate objects themselves aren't good or bad, the way humans use them is what can be described as good or bad.






Anthrax is not an inanimate object.





Not so fast, cupcake. Look again.
you are seriously arguing semantics? you lose.

a right is? a priveledge is?

anything that is granted with limitations that the granted governing body can decide to take away...is a priveledge.
Like driving, voting, etc. it isnt your right...it is a priveledge, hence why some can and some cant. What dont you get?

go ahead and keep arguing about terminology...I assume you think the virgin mary was really what we call a "virgin".

However, my point (even with one example) is made...how can an object be bad? I won that one too....you hide, as you should

Owning a gun is a privilege

check out Senior Editor of WALL ST JOURNAL and his remarks:

May I remind readers that "gun rights for citizens" gun fanatics per Mr. R. Kiefer (personal weapons should be limited, letter to the editor Jan. 31) is covered by our Second Amendment, "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" is separate from "a well-regulated Militia"; that guns are purchased through registered dealers who in turn register the purchase; that guns are collected as a hobby; that guns are shot competitively in shooting clubs and used by hunters to balance our ecology system; and that guns are used to protect family and possessions.

Police protect the community. A gun may protect individuals until the police arrive. Although we have gun rights, this is a privilege until a gun is used while committing a crime. Then the privilege is no longer a right and the gun ownership is prohibited.
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you are seriously arguing semantics? you lose.

a right is? a priveledge is?
Dude, you blew it. You made an asinine statement that was easily proven wrong. Now grow and admit when you have made a mistake.
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Dude, you blew it. You made an asinine statement that was easily proven wrong. Now grow and admit when you have made a mistake.
nope, you havent proven anything, kiddo. you are arguing semantics...ive pointed out several holes in your statement. obviously you arent man enough to stand up and admit it. none of us thought you were, so no surprise there.

you say "driving is a right. voting is a right. owning a gun is a right"

however, the government (all governments that allow) disagrees with you..stating...under certain conditions you do not have that right, henceforth making it privledged.

enough with you, you would argue about the sky being blue. typical boy that hates his life and blames everyone else for his own shortcomings.
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