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But the Bill of Rights states:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


How does have a nation full of half-witted rednecks with Uzis under their pillows equate to "a well regulated Militia"?

Surely it means you have no right to any weapons designed for hunting or other "sports". Those weapons are not part of being "A well regulated Militia".

Do you go to regular training to be part of a "A well regulated Militia" BillyBob?

Surely "well-regulated" also means "under strict government control"

What do you think "well regulated" means BillyBob?

What do you think an "arm" actually is BillyBob?
it means you have the right to possess and bear battleships, 70mm shells, flack, flack towers, 38mm long range field batteries, nuclear missles, missles of any type with an armed tip, land mines, limpit mines, tanks, dynamite with express purpose of using it as an "arm". basically all armements, as it isnt clearly defined.

oh but it has been clearly defined, has it not? like religious zealouts and the bible....all open to interpretation.
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The entire body of physically fit civilians eligible by law for military service; "their troops were untrained militia"; "Congress shall have power to provide for calling forth the militia"--United States Constitution

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PART I. ADMINISTRATION OF THE GOVERNMENT

TITLE V. MILITIA

CHAPTER 33. MILITIA

II. ORGANIZATION

Chapter 33: Section 2. Membership

Section 2. The militia of the commonwealth shall consist of all able-bodied male citizens and all other able-bodied males who have declared their intention to become citizens of the United States, between the ages of seventeen and forty-five, and who are residents of the commonwealth, and of such other persons, male and female, as may, upon their own application, be enlisted or commissioned therein pursuant to any provision of this chapter, subject, however, to such exemptions as are now, or may be hereafter, created by law.

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I chose Massachusetts because it was one of the original 13 colonies and the site of the Boston Massacre! The definition of "Militia" were usually defined by each state.
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it means you have the right to possess and bear battleships, 70mm shells, flack, flack towers, 38mm long range field batteries, nuclear missles, missles of any type with an armed tip, land mines, limpit mines, tanks, dynamite with express purpose of using it as an "arm". basically all armements, as it isnt clearly defined.

oh but it has been clearly defined, has it not? like religious zealouts and the bible....all open to interpretation.
You do not have the right to nuclear missiles because of the Non-Proliferation Treaty.
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militia

The entire body of physically fit civilians eligible by law for military service; "their troops were untrained militia"; "Congress shall have power to provide for calling forth the militia"--United States Constitution



I chose Massachusetts because it was one of the original 13 colonies and the site of the Boston Massacre! The definition of "Militia" were usually defined by each state.
Didn't you watch the HBO show John Adams. It clearly showed that the "Boston Massacre" was actually American militia men launching an unprovoked riot, using children and women as human shields, on British troops who were minding their own business. Obviously they shot back in self-defense, and their response was proportional.
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Didn't you watch the HBO show John Adams. It clearly showed that the "Boston Massacre" was actually American militia men launching an unprovoked riot, using children and women as human shields, on British troops who were minding their own business. Obviously they shot back in self-defense, and their response was proportional.
That movie was a fictional adaptation of the book "John Adam's" by David McCullough. There is plenty of controversy over the historical accuracy of the book.
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er....sell the guns, get an education instead...you will get further.

besides, i can disable a man with a gun in under 5 seconds...as long as there is only one. it aint like the movies, kid. pistols arent accurate and only hit their targest 40% of the time and jamming occurs quite frequently, as well as most people hesitate before pulling the trigger. 3 out of 10, the safety is on...too many variables to take down the "guy with the gun". like i said, its not like the movies.
It is not the pistol that is inaccurate, it is the person.

In under five seconds a person can squeeze off eight rounds.
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militia

The entire body of physically fit civilians eligible by law for military service; "their troops were untrained militia"; "Congress shall have power to provide for calling forth the militia"--United States Constitution



I chose Massachusetts because it was one of the original 13 colonies and the site of the Boston Massacre! The definition of "Militia" were usually defined by each state.
Bugalugs, are you going to counter this? Or did you quit?
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You do not have the right to nuclear missiles because of the Non-Proliferation Treaty.
I'm no lawyer, but it seems to me that if the government doesn't have the power to forbid something using a law then it should be unable to forbid it by signing a treaty. If the US government ratified a treaty that all press would be government censored, for example, it would be violating the First Amendment and thus invalid. It would be making a promise it didn't have the power to adhere to.
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I'm no lawyer, but it seems to me that if the government doesn't have the power to forbid something using a law then it should be unable to forbid it by signing a treaty. If the US government ratified a treaty that all press would be government censored, for example, it would be violating the First Amendment and thus invalid. It would be making a promise it didn't have the power to adhere to.
That is one take on it. But there are many laws that violate the constitution.
Anywho because we are signatory we are bound by it. That goes for the government and her citizens.
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