Thread: Obama Administration's War Against The Second Amendment...

The Obama Administration is laying low when it comes to the issue of gun control. As Obama likes to say, "make no mistake", his Administration is anti-gun and anti-Second Amendment. They will go into full swing on this issue if he gets re-elected. He has promised his anti-gun constituents that he will be working "under the radar" on this. If re-elected, he will go mainstream.

Right now, the Supreme Court is just one Justice away from eradicating the Second Amendment. If he gets the chance in the next term to appoint another Justice, the Second Amendment, our rights, and our freedoms, will suffer.

Please take the time to read this:

Obama's Secret Plan To Destroy The Second Amendment By 2016

The real issue are the authoritarians on the right forcing irrational policy change, surely? They destroy the chances of individualism after all

Democrats are anti 2A (It's in their DNA)

Originally Posted by Reiver

The real issue are the authoritarians on the right forcing irrational policy change, surely? They destroy the chances of individualism after all

First of all, how can one "force" more Constitutionally-protected freedom upon the populace? Second of all, how are these congressmen "authoritarians" when they were elected into office by their constituents? Third, how is adhering to the Constitution "irrational"? Lastly, how does trying to expand the 2nd Amendment to reflect its original meaning act to "destroy individualism?"

Originally Posted by onalandline

The Obama Administration is laying low when it comes to the issue of gun control. As Obama likes to say, "make no mistake", his Administration is anti-gun and anti-Second Amendment. They will go into full swing on this issue if he gets re-elected. He has promised his anti-gun constituents that he will be working "under the radar" on this. If re-elected, he will go mainstream.

Right now, the Supreme Court is just one Justice away from eradicating the Second Amendment. If he gets the chance in the next term to appoint another Justice, the Second Amendment, our rights, and our freedoms, will suffer.

Please take the time to read this:

Obama's Secret Plan To Destroy The Second Amendment By 2016

Hmmm.

I m not sure I understand.

the link says that I need an NRA card to fight something, but it does not say what that something is.

To "eradicate" the 2nd, there would have to be a new constitutional amendment, which is not done by the USSC but rather the legislative branch.

Originally Posted by drj90210

First of all, how can one "force" more Constitutionally-protected freedom upon the populace?

Come now, we know that this isn't actually about the constitution, but what authoritarians tell you about the constitutions. See Winkler (2007, Scrutinising the 2nd Amendment, Michigan Law Review, Vol 105 Issue 4, pp 683-733).

Second of all, how are these congressmen "authoritarians" when they were elected into office by their constituents?

The authoritarian personality is an unfortunate feature impinging on both pressure group and the herd.

Third, how is adhering to the Constitution "irrational"?

See above! The Constitution doesn't demand irrationality. The authoritarians demand a Constitution that is irrational

Lastly, how does trying to expand the 2nd Amendment to reflect its original meaning act to "destroy individualism?"

Those against rational gun control are against individualism, by definition. They use the constitution to hide from that reality. It works well unfortunately and its a shame to see Americans so easily twisted away from the brilliance of individualism

Originally Posted by Gator Monroe

Democrats are anti 2A (It's in their DNA)

I am going to have to disagree.

Whilst there are some Democrats that are against the proliferation of guns, there is at least one, myself, who is really into slinging some lead.

Originally Posted by Reiver

Come now, we know that this isn't actually about the constitution, but what authoritarians tell you about the constitutions. See Winkler (2007, Scrutinising the 2nd Amendment, Michigan Law Review, Vol 105 Issue 4, pp 683-733).

Where does the author, Adam Winkler, mention "right-wing authoritarians?" I cannot seem to find that part in the article.

The authoritarian personality is an unfortunate feature impinging on both pressure group and the herd.

Your interpretation of a "authoritarian" advocating for more freedoms is silly, and this warped definition is the exact opposite of the true meaning of the term.

See above! The Constitution doesn't demand irrationality. The authoritarians demand a Constitution that is irrational

Where does the author refer to the Founding Fathers or anyone who agrees with their original definition of the RTKBA as "irrational" or "authoritarian?"

If such a view was truly irrational, then congressman (and society in general) would be behind an amendment to the constitution that offers clarification on the right to keep and bear arms. I have not seen anyone propose such an amendment, and I probably will not see anyone propose such an amendment in my lifetime.

Those against rational gun control are against individualism, by definition.

How does expanding CCW conflict with "rational gun control?" How does spread of the Castle Doctrine conflict with "rational gun control?" How does imposing harsher penalties on criminals who assault people with guns or criminals who smuggle weapons conflict with "rational gun control?"

On the flip side. How is limiting magazine capacity a "rational" gun control measure? How is banning 50 caliber SINGLE SHOT rifles "rational?" How is banning handguns for law abiding citizens rational? How is banning semiautomatic versions of military rifles "rational?" How is a "one gun per month" policy "rational?"

It seems that you have a twisted view on what is "rational" and what isn't.

They use the constitution to hide from that reality.

Spoken like a true authoritarian.

turn the 2nd amendment into a glass parking lot

Originally Posted by Reiver

The real issue are the authoritarians on the right forcing irrational policy change, surely? They destroy the chances of individualism after all

We're talking about the Obama Administration. Enough of the double-speak.