Thread: Leftist with guns

If it is santorum, we can be certain of Obama's second term.

He is simply an idiot beyond words.

Originally Posted by Wolverine

If it is santorum, we can be certain of Obama's second term.

He is simply an idiot beyond words.

As long as Newt stays in Romney should get it. If his billionaire drops him we could be in trouble. Santorum draw are the Christians not to fond of a Mormon I suppose. Yet Romney no hero to the second. I would not want him to have a 2nd term either. It will boil down to the affordable care act being affirmed. As alot of young heathy people will not want to be forced to buy health insurance.
If that happens Obama will have a hard time with independents. With gas prices already this high a bad hurricane in Texas or Louisiana would put gas where we never seen it before. A possible Israel pay back for Obama first year in office with an attack on Iran. Assuming it is Romney, I think it would be a coin flip with slight Obama edge now. One of the above a good chance. Two out of three very likely Romney. All three would be a Landslide. This issue of guns seems to only matter for a few. I live in the south so it never matters they always go red in the presidential election. I just like to research an try an figure things out. Then see if I am right in November.

Originally Posted by Texsdrifter

While I hope Obama fails in his bid for a second term. If wolverine loses his rights so do we. I fail to see how attacking someone who supports the right to bear arms. Furthers our cause I have never seen wolverine say anything to deserve to be attacked. I support the second even voting for the republicans just for that reason. Attacking a supporter of the 2nd makes it appear that isn't your primary concern. If more like him had his views the 2nd would be secure. I defend his rights as much as my own. There are plenty of foes who deserve attack he is not one. If he supports Obama I hope he will be disappointed. Yet I have never heard him support Obama. I wish wolverine very well on his 2nd amendment for it is mine as well.

Wolverine is low hanging fruit. The inconsistency in his political thought makes him fair game.

You are very charitable to those who are our political enemies. I am not so charitable. Wolverine supports Obama despite the fact that in a second term Obama will have nothing to restrain him from attempting to gut the second amendment. This means that the Second Amendment is a low priority for him.

Our friend would meekly stand in line to turn in his weapons if Obama demanded it. They can have my weapons after they gun me down. That's what it would take.

Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo

Wolverine is low hanging fruit. The inconsistency in his political thought makes him fair game.
I have debated fierce opposition in these threads wolverine has never supported them against me. I seek to unite all supporters of this together.
You are very charitable to those who are our political enemies. I am not so charitable. Wolverine supports Obama despite the fact that in a second term Obama will have nothing to restrain him from attempting to gut the second amendment. This means that the Second Amendment is a low priority for him.
All of the hierarchy of this country are threats to the constitution. We are all free to seek victory for our cause. As you are free to chose your strategy. I feel making enemies has little positive effect. He just said to me he did not, I have no reason to doubt him. I agree with you on
Obama. You may read as many post of mine as you wish. I have done nothing but fight for the 2nd. I concede nothing to those that seek to remove my rights. I respectful disagree for weeks I attempted to prove our case.
Wolverine not once supported those that said Obama was not a
threat.Whatever he maybe an authoritarian he is not. Real enemies do exist
who have done a great deal towards advancing their views.

Our friend would meekly stand in line to turn in his weapons if Obama demanded it. They can have my weapons after they gun me down. That's what it would take.

Yet again I disagree I feel he will not go quietly.
Nor will I, yet if enough agree on both sides that will never be necessary. If I had not read his post for weeks. I would not have come to his defense. This is the most important issue for me. Far to important to let mere ideology stand
in the way. I seek no battle from within our ranks but I have seen
conservatives favor registrations. The last nominee as well as Romney have
issues as well. This battle will evolve past the traditional right VS left view. The more supporters we have the easier victory will become.

Originally Posted by Texsdrifter

Yet again I disagree I feel he will not go quietly.
Nor will I, yet if enough agree on both sides that will never be necessary. If I had not read his post for weeks. I would not have come to his defense. This is the most important issue for me. Far to important to let mere ideology stand
in the way. I seek no battle from within our ranks but I have seen
conservatives favor registrations. The last nominee as well as Romney have
issues as well. This battle will evolve past the traditional right VS left view. The more supporters we have the easier victory will become.

Good post brother. Maybe you're right. Time will tell. I leave you now so I can hunt down vermin.

Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo

Good post brother. Maybe you're right. Time will tell. I leave you now so I can hunt down vermin.

Thank you, we can only hope. Good luck on your quest.

Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo

Wolverine is low hanging fruit. The inconsistency in his political thought makes him fair game.

You are very charitable to those who are our political enemies. I am not so charitable. Wolverine supports Obama despite the fact that in a second term Obama will have nothing to restrain him from attempting to gut the second amendment. This means that the Second Amendment is a low priority for him.

Our friend would meekly stand in line to turn in his weapons if Obama demanded it. They can have my weapons after they gun me down. That's what it would take.

Chest beating? Enjoying your Red Dawn fantasy?

Originally Posted by Texsdrifter

As long as Newt stays in Romney should get it. If his billionaire drops him we could be in trouble. Santorum draw are the Christians not to fond of a Mormon I suppose. Yet Romney no hero to the second. I would not want him to have a 2nd term either. It will boil down to the affordable care act being affirmed. As alot of young heathy people will not want to be forced to buy health insurance.
If that happens Obama will have a hard time with independents. With gas prices already this high a bad hurricane in Texas or Louisiana would put gas where we never seen it before. A possible Israel pay back for Obama first year in office with an attack on Iran. Assuming it is Romney, I think it would be a coin flip with slight Obama edge now. One of the above a good chance. Two out of three very likely Romney. All three would be a Landslide. This issue of guns seems to only matter for a few. I live in the south so it never matters they always go red in the presidential election. I just like to research an try an figure things out. Then see if I am right in November.

It seems that the issue of gun control favors the pro gun rights crowd, they typically vote with gun rights in mind. The gun control advocates do not typically vote for candidates who favor gun control, the association of gun control and leftist politics I think is more of a partisan issue than a reasoned through position to take.

As for Romney, I guess I do not see him passing much gun control. That would essentially kill the prospect of a GOP party backed re-election. He just needs to look better than Santorum.... Santorum seems to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

Originally Posted by Wolverine

That is your choice. Just because you do X does not mean other have to.

No, Wol, they don't have to but then by the same logic why would they expect ME to pay THEIR bills??? It's called a choice, Wol, a choice. If they do not chose to do what it takes then that's their look out and don't come to me with your hand out.

Originally Posted by Wolverine

I don't either. The key to appealing to the masses and preserving our rights is moderation.

Even though the NRA is rather moderate, far from the Brady Campaign slogan "any gun, anyone, any time", I am amazed at how ignorant people can be regarding the NRA's policies.

Even though I have no use for a full auto I would not curtail another from owning one if they jump through all the hoops. But what's funny to me is, those of your mind set forget that before 1934 anybody could walk into the store and walk out with a Thompson no questions asked. It was their RIGHT!