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    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    The evidence in the cities with gun bans in this nation had higher gun crime rates than those that didn't have the bans. That's the evidence base I look at.
    No, you look for raw data to feed your bias. That isn't evidence based. Indeed, its completely against what the empirical process adopts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    The evidence in the cities with gun bans in this nation had higher gun crime rates than those that didn't have the bans. That's the evidence base I look at.
    Sorry, Reiver is not interested in evidence or facts but only with peer reviewed papers that support his own bias. The fact that violent crime dropped the last 10 years even though gun ownership skyrocketed makes no difference to him because you did not show the reverse based on a peer reviewed paper that he likes.
    Stopping public awareness of Ebola is far more important than stopping Ebola

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    Sorry, Reiver is not interested in evidence
    A particularly clueless comment as I'm the only one here adopting- unflinchingly- an evidence based approach. The problem is that you don't know what evidence entails

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    The evidence in the cities with gun bans in this nation had higher gun crime rates than those that didn't have the bans. That's the evidence base I look at.
    Well he avoided the south of the border issue all together.
    When we can see a better future for our nations children we can focus on the non issue; issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiver View Post
    Crikey, try again! You're coming out with nonsense
    O.K., Reiv, we have grown up in a gun culture in the States. Europeans for the most part have never held a firearm let alone grew up using them. It's hard to compare a nation where guns have been outlawed and for the most part don't exist to a nation that has over 300 million in citizens hands. That's like pointing to Yemen and comparing how many fewer auto crashes they have than the U.S., it doesn't compute

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    O.K., Reiv, we have grown up in a gun culture in the States.
    Irrelevant except to the feasibility of a gun ban. This is about logic, evidence and rationality. You shouldn't find the three so unpalatable!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiver View Post
    Irrelevant except to the feasibility of a gun ban. This is about logic, evidence and rationality. You shouldn't find the three so unpalatable!
    Tell ya what. You propose a way to stop the drugs coming in to the US. The growing Latin American Gang violence, the influx of criminals, the liberal court system....and I will think about giving up my guns.

    The US is not Europe.
    Last edited by Archer0915; Feb 25 2012 at 02:45 PM.
    When we can see a better future for our nations children we can focus on the non issue; issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archer0915 View Post
    The US is not Europe.
    Most of the evidence that cannot reject the 'more guns=more crime' hypothesis is American. You continue to show a complete disregard for the evidence and I find that most disagreeable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiver View Post
    Most of the evidence that cannot reject the 'more guns=more crime' hypothesis is American. You continue to show a complete disregard for the evidence and I find that most disagreeable
    Look at mexico! Look what we deal with in the US. Come over here and live in some areas. They do not need guns. Many will take what they want and if they want your ass they will take that and they will not use lube. You think you know something but you are ignorant of reality.
    When we can see a better future for our nations children we can focus on the non issue; issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archer0915 View Post
    Look at mexico
    You won't be able to use that to discount your agreement that gun prevalence increases homicide. You also won't be able to use it to discount the evidence that shows gun control reduces homicide. The evidence isn't your friend

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