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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemo View Post
    Semantics? Quoting the scriptures or John Locke will not get you nowhere in court. Your right to have a gun exists by law, not some religious precept or philosophical construct of no substance or consequence. You will learn the true nature and source of your rights when you have need to enforce and protect them.
    Our right to bear arms is ours at birth as all our rights are
    Out to the road,out 'neath the stars,feelin' the breeze,passing the cars.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by onalandline View Post
    I agree. The only God-given right, is the right to live.
    I will have to disagree one only has to look at Roe VS Wade. To see our constitution has been used to remove that right as well. While this is much to my dismay it would appear the only god-given right left is death. Even though there are many laws to try an prevent that right from being a choice. As I search to find truth it would appear the only absolute right the constitution grants us is the right to pay taxes. I do not believe that was the intent of the founders; but that does appear to be the facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneStrSt8 View Post
    Our right to bear arms is ours at birth as all our rights are
    That may be the case. Yet the government decides from that moment on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemo View Post
    Semantics? Quoting the scriptures or John Locke will not get you nowhere in court. Your right to have a gun exists by law, not some religious precept or philosophical construct of no substance or consequence. You will learn the true nature and source of your rights when you have need to enforce and protect them.
    Nemo is right and to attempt an Kill the messenger for telling you bad news. Is counter productive,having a false sense of security does not make you any safer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texsdrifter View Post
    I will have to disagree one only has to look at Roe VS Wade. To see our constitution has been used to remove that right as well. While this is much to my dismay it would appear the only god-given right left is death. Even though there are many laws to try an prevent that right from being a choice. As I search to find truth it would appear the only absolute right the constitution grants us is the right to pay taxes. I do not believe that was the intent of the founders; but that does appear to be the facts.
    I guess the right to live is guaranteed providing the host lets you live.
    "The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion dollars for the first 42 presidents — number 43 added $4 trillion dollars by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. It’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic!" - Barack Hussein Obama

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    Quote Originally Posted by onalandline View Post
    I guess the right to live is guaranteed providing the host lets you live.
    The death penalty allows forfeiture of that right by due process. A criminal can remove that right by their actions. The government can rule you a terrorist and avoid due process. War can remove it for duty. Accidents can remove it by chance. Disease can end it far to soon. If you avoid those listed above old age ends it for all. I am not trying to be combative. I am just trying to demonstrate why Nemo was correct.
    Last edited by Texsdrifter; Mar 11 2012 at 04:25 PM.

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    I think this quote from Eleanor Roosevelt explains it well.

    "A right is not something that somebody gives you; it is something that nobody can take away."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texsdrifter View Post
    The death penalty allows forfeiture of that right by due process. A criminal can remove that right by their actions. The government can rule you a terrorist and avoid due process. War can remove it for duty. Accidents can remove it by chance. Disease can end it far to soon. If you avoid those listed above old age ends it for all. I am not trying to be combative. I am just trying to demonstrate why Nemo was correct.
    I never said that you would live forever. Life is still a God given right. However, it can be taken away in different ways as you mentioned.
    "The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion dollars for the first 42 presidents — number 43 added $4 trillion dollars by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. It’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic!" - Barack Hussein Obama

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texsdrifter View Post
    I think this quote from Eleanor Roosevelt explains it well.

    "A right is not something that somebody gives you; it is something that nobody can take away."
    ...or something that nobody should take away, since apparently anything can be taken away.
    "The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion dollars for the first 42 presidents — number 43 added $4 trillion dollars by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. It’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic!" - Barack Hussein Obama

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    That would seem to leave death and taxes as the last we have. I welcome anyone to inform me of others rights that I might actual want but I fear they no longer exist.

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