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    A well regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free State and is exempted from State gun control (law) for that purpose.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverhair View Post
    You need to check your history on that. Reality is strongly against you. Bush 43 signed the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act of 2005 which Obama voted against. That was a MAJOR protection for gun rights. Bush also signed the The Disaster Recovery Personal Protection Act of 2006. Obama did vote for it.

    Obama's expansions were merely riders on other important must-pass legislation. To get the credit card reform bill that he wanted he had to accept guns-in-parks or veto both.
    nope, reality is still firmly in place, and very much on my side. the only legislation obama has signed into law, has EXPANDED gun rights. more so than the past 3 presidents.
    it really sucks to be a birther

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    A well regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free State and is exempted from State gun control (law) for that purpose.
    Actually the second amendment originally prevented the federal government from restricting the right. The 2nd was not incorporated to the states till McDonald VS Chicago. Since the restrictions in Chicago, New York, and D.C. still prevent average citizens from exercising their rights, I would say it was a rather hollow victory. If the states wished to activate their militias they would be immune from federal restrictions on firearms in theory, or if congress activated the militia it might then be immune from state gun control but short of that no one is immune to either.

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    I am not sure what you mean, a well regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free State and is exempted from State gun control (law) for that purpose; and was only intended to excempt a well regulated militia from laws that affect the citizenry of a State who may not be "entitled to the character of a well regulated militia", and therefore subject to State gun control (laws).
    Last edited by danielpalos; May 25 2012 at 01:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    I am not sure what you mean, a well regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free State and is exempted from State gun control (law) for that purpose; and was only intended to excempt a well regulated militia from laws that affect the citizenry of a State who may not be "entitled to the character of a well regulated militia", and therefore subject to State gun control (laws).
    What i never understood with the above statement. The United States is not the United Kingdom. The usa is not an island but neighbouring via land to mexico and south america. Also canada but i leave them out of this (they are too nice for gun debates)

    So the usa is not an island but wants to have a militia which will eventually face off with land base neighbours.

    Sort of like the scottish who tried to invade england once but bless their hearts, they got confused and invaded Liverpool.

    My point: Do these views of usa armed militia work, are they rational and sane when faced with the complexity of neighbouring nation disputes if they get out of hand.
    Last edited by GeneralZod; May 25 2012 at 02:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Don't you believe our tax Money being transferred via the coercive use of force of our government is a Burden to the citizenry of our republic?

    Why is it that gun lovers don't seem to love their republic as much as they claim to love their guns?
    How are law-abiding citizens exercising their rights doing this? Be specific, and stop repeating your one-liners.
    "The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion dollars for the first 42 presidents — number 43 added $4 trillion dollars by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. It’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic!" - Barack Hussein Obama

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    Would we need the expense of a War on Crime, if towns and cities had recourse to a well regulated militia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Would we need the expense of a War on Crime, if towns and cities had recourse to a well regulated militia?
    A so-called "War on Crime" has nothing to do with the individual right to keep and bear arms. A well-regulated militia, in your utopian world, will not stop crime.
    "The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion dollars for the first 42 presidents — number 43 added $4 trillion dollars by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. It’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic!" - Barack Hussein Obama

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    You are overlooking the concept due to your propaganda and rhetoric. It is about lowering our Tax burden through collective action and individual liberty and individual responsibility.

    The Second Article of Amendment to our supreme law of the land specifically enumerates that a well regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free State and is to be preferred to even standing arminies in their modern times, for them.

    Simply establishing a Standard for a well Regulated militia could eventially enable some persons who keep and bear Arms, to be "entitled to the character of a well regulated militia" and exempted from State gun control laws, simply for being Necessary to the security of a free State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    You are overlooking the concept due to your propaganda and rhetoric. It is about lowering our Tax burden through collective action and individual liberty and individual responsibility.

    The Second Article of Amendment to our supreme law of the land specifically enumerates that a well regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free State and is to be preferred to even standing arminies in their modern times, for them.

    Simply establishing a Standard for a well Regulated militia could eventially enable some persons who keep and bear Arms, to be "entitled to the character of a well regulated militia" and exempted from State gun control laws, simply for being Necessary to the security of a free State.
    How does this lower our tax burden?
    "The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion dollars for the first 42 presidents — number 43 added $4 trillion dollars by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. It’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic!" - Barack Hussein Obama

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