Thread: Colorado shooting: People want gun control in their mind, not in actions

Originally Posted by Wolverine

Violation of the 1989 Import ban.

All of that seems to be geared more towards punishment than rehabilitation.

I would know of the 1989 import ban, why?

And you know what? Since there is a 98% non-return rate, I would say its perfect compared to the current system...

Originally Posted by DoneEatingGrass

I would know of the 1989 import ban, why?

You claim that gun laws should have punishments so strict that no one will be willing to break them. That is a bit silly. However, that is beside the point. If you claim that violation of gun laws should be so tough that no one will ever break them. then I hope you know exactly what those gun laws are. How would you like to be sentenced to hard labor because you have one too many parts in your imported semi-automatic? Or because you took down a Thompson Encore rifle and assembled the pistol in the wrong order?

Are you sure you know enough about the subject to be making such harsh judgements?

And you know what? Since there is a 98% non-return rate, I would say its perfect compared to the current system...

I was unaware that prisons were required to make money. Wait, they are not.

Originally Posted by Wolverine

You claim that gun laws should have punishments so strict that no one will be willing to break them. That is a bit silly. However, that is beside the point. If you claim that violation of gun laws should be so tough that no one will ever break them. then I hope you know exactly what those gun laws are.

I was unaware that prisons were required to make money. Wait, they are not.

I know the gun laws related to my country, which would be Canada. Maybe you should pay attention.

Where did I say prisons currently require to make money? I said they have a 98% non-return rate, as in people who have served their time, 98% don't go back, as in rehibilitated...again pay attention...

My apologies, I have no interest in discussing Canadian gun laws.

Originally Posted by Wolverine

My apologies, I have no interest in discussing Canadian gun laws.

I didn't bring them into discussion, I mearly asked why I would know if the 1989 import ban, which should have prompted you to check where I was from. Since this is a world wide forum.

Originally Posted by DoneEatingGrass

I didn't bring them into discussion, I mearly asked why I would know if the 1989 import ban, which should have prompted you to check where I was from. Since this is a world wide forum.

Not necessarily. Very few people know about about gun laws. Evan amongst gun owners, the 1989 Import Ban is largely unknown.

It seems that thinking that incarceration geared toward rehabilitation vs strictly a punitive action seems something akin to the "war on drugs", not really producing desired effects.

Originally Posted by Wolverine

lol The mentally unstable are already barred from acquiring firearms.

Doesn't the case that triggered this discussion suggest otherwise? As far as I'm aware, there is no specific testing prior to getting a gun, only check of an existing records. I suspect only the most extreme previously identified issues would get someone on any kind of black-list as far as gun ownership goes.

Don't get me wrong. I don't think you can guarantee to prevent this kind of incident regardless of what you do. I just threw out an instinctive response to a specific question. Is seems possible that a requirement for some kind of psychological check prior to buying guns may have prevented this tragedy (at least playing out in the manner it did). Whether that is legal, practical or acceptable to the (vocal part of) the US public is a different matter.

Who would administer this check? How long will it take? Who is going to pay for it? Do you realize that evaluation is a presumption of guilt?

Gun control means that I control my gun with two hand as I put two rounds in this bastards chest then one in the head.