Thread: Why do guns scare people...

Originally Posted by Iolo

Why do guns scare people...

Because you nutters obey the merchants of death and let even nuttier nutters arm themselves like crazy bandits. In ten years, by banning most of the nutters' popguns, we have reduced the annual number of deaths by gunshot in the UK from 96 to 39. Guns scare people because they can be used to kill them. Obvious, really.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1440764.stm

A new study suggests the use of handguns in crime rose by 40% in the two years after the weapons were banned.

The research, commissioned by the Countryside Alliance's Campaign for Shooting, has concluded that existing laws are targeting legitimate users of firearms rather than criminals.

The ban on ownership of handguns was introduced in 1997 as a result of the Dunblane massacre, when Thomas Hamilton opened fire at a primary school leaving 16 children and their teacher dead.

Violent crime has skyrocketed in the UK after the institution of the gun ban. They now have age restrictions on the purchase of kitchen knives.

Pre and post gun bans

Originally Posted by Iolo

Why do guns scare people...

Because you nutters obey the merchants of death and let even nuttier nutters arm themselves like crazy bandits. In ten years, by banning most of the nutters' popguns, we have reduced the annual number of deaths by gunshot in the UK from 96 to 39. Guns scare people because they can be used to kill them. Obvious, really.

You also have similiarly had an increase in knife crime.

Criminals are violent, they are not dumb.

Originally Posted by LemurianCitizen

I don't like guns and am scared of them because they only have one purpose: to kill. And they make killing another being incredibly easy.

Now, I'm well aware that almost everything can be used to kill or injure somebody. However, I believe that killing somebody with a knife, for example, is harder to do than to kill somebody with a gun. If you use a knife you have to get close to somebody and you're more involved in the actual act of killing since you'll probably get some blood on you and feel the resistance of the tissue and bones. You don't get that closely involved if you use a gun and therefore it might be easier to actually attack and kill somebody using a gun.

So I really don't like guns and I'll be glad if I never have to hold or fire one. That doesn't mean that I want to confiscate all guns. However, I'm very much for strict gun laws, psychological assessments for anyone wanting to own a gun and strict rules of storage. And I have to admit that I'm very glad that we have all those restrictions in Germany.

So you like restriction laws, but nothing about punishment laws. I suspect your primary focus is on the rights of the felons and that you support cozy prison conditions and no death penalty, becaue "this is not civilized."

So you understand that a felon who uses a knife to stab a victim during a crime is a more dangerous and violent person. And that someone who puts a few nice round holes in a victim during a crime is more easy-going.

What punishment is derserved for each example if convicted of 1st degree murder in your opinion?

Among the deaths by violent crime, getting shot is like getting a candy bar. "Ask" the people who have been beaten to death with a bat, hammer or axe. It is a tool, just like the other items, that in the wrong hands will lead to problems. Banning the concept of a tool will put you into the stone ages in order to provide rationalization for the irresponsible.

I am against banning handguns for responsable owners. And I agree with the concept of the right to bear arms.

But I will have to admit...well anyway we hired this person to paint and he rode a motorcycle, was on medication, rented his domicile, and borrowed money every week to get through the week. His motorcycle broke down and he had to catch a ride with a fellow employee and could not afford to get his motorcycle out of hock and threatened to burn the place down. Then he started complainine about every little thing on every job. He was a pest.

He owned a lot of guns and knives and was big into martial arts. He finally told the shop foreman "if I had another job I would just quit", the shop foreman replied "let me help you out.. you are fired". They were in the middle of a heated argument.

Now this is a guy that will not be able to pay his rent and we will see him walking down the road with his trashbag full of clothes.
Several employees were going to take off work today because there was a real possibility that this unstable individual would come back in shooting.

The two of us that took psychology figured he was the type.

I can't say I was scared of guns at work today...but we were all "watchfull".

Originally Posted by dudeman

Among the deaths by violent crime, getting shot is like getting a candy bar. "Ask" the people who have been beaten to death with a bat, hammer or axe. It is a tool, just like the other items, that in the wrong hands will lead to problems. Banning the concept of a tool will put you into the stone ages in order to provide rationalization for the irresponsible.

Dude I would have real problems getting an answer from someone that has been beaten to death LOL..

Originally Posted by LemurianCitizen

I don't like guns and am scared of them because they only have one purpose: to kill. And they make killing another being incredibly easy.

Now, I'm well aware that almost everything can be used to kill or injure somebody. However, I believe that killing somebody with a knife, for example, is harder to do than to kill somebody with a gun. If you use a knife you have to get close to somebody and you're more involved in the actual act of killing since you'll probably get some blood on you and feel the resistance of the tissue and bones. You don't get that closely involved if you use a gun and therefore it might be easier to actually attack and kill somebody using a gun.

So I really don't like guns and I'll be glad if I never have to hold or fire one. That doesn't mean that I want to confiscate all guns. However, I'm very much for strict gun laws, psychological assessments for anyone wanting to own a gun and strict rules of storage. And I have to admit that I'm very glad that we have all those restrictions in Germany.

You've never stabbed someone than. It's just as easy, if not more so because a knife doesn't make a loud ass boom after you cut someone up.

Originally Posted by Hate_bs

You also have similiarly had an increase in knife crime.

Criminals are violent, they are not dumb.

You are, Knife crime is down by 5%, as you know.