Well see that's where we differ. I don't feel that I need a firearm for `protection' and neither do most other Australians. I do think it's a mind set - that's what your culture has taught you to believe. Mine hasn't - so we believe different things. Understandable, really.

I know about several different types of weapons, about their upkeep, care and use, have fired several from a handgun to a rocket launcher, and if I do say so myself, am a darn good shot. This is due to my Army training, and nothing else. Knowing what I do about guns, I sure don't need one in my house or purse.

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But to ask your question in a different way - if it makes no difference to crime then why make guns more easily accessible? Don't try to fix what ain't broke, in my opinion - because if guns aren't a problem now they could well be if we relaxed the laws. And staying static is far, far preferable to going backwards.[/QUOTE]

Because making stricter restrictions did nothing to lower crime. Why make them stricter if it did not reduce your crime rate?

That is an opinion, and it is one I can respect. But knowing what I know, and from what I have seen, I am better off with one for protection.

Lastly correct me if I am wrong, the number of firearms used in suicide may have dropped off, but the number of successful suicides has not dropped since gun control in your country.

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In fact, banning guns increases crime.

How's that?

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In our country we saw a sharp increase in firearm related violence after the last big ban was put into effect.

Aus seems to have been an odd one, crime did not raise or lower. But then again you boys are a bit odd. (I kid I kid, I loved Aus when I was there).

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Here is an article from the BBC:

Handgun crime 'up' despite ban

People want to ban guns because they are ignorant of what rights are, thus the responsibilities inherent to them.

A person who does not own a gun is a person who has conceded their right to life to the government; this they've typically not done intentionally, but again, through ignorance... Of course the ignorance does not provide relief from the ramifications of having placed their faith in that which cannot, does not and can never provide them with security they have mistakenly placed in it.

Most of the aforementioned leftists believe that where guns are banned, that it is the government takes responsibility for their safety. They're completely wrong.

In the looming SCOTUS decision regarding DC's total gun ban, the inferior DC courts have consistently issued decisions that the Government is NOT obligated to protect anyone from anything; that there is an obligation to protect "the People," meaning the broad group of citizens, but there is no obligation on the part of government to protect any one citizen. This means that if you get murdered or seriously injured, neither you, nor your assigns will find any relief from government due to that government having failed to defend you. PERIOD. IF the cops were standing right there and did NOTHING, they are not obligated to assist, defend or otherwise come to your aid.

So... let's assume this were brought to the forefront and government copped to it, explaining that it simply is not possible for government to defend everyone; does anyone hear think that the anti-American, anti-gun crowd would be swayed?

I can tell you that they would not. What they would do is they would simply build the illusion that the government COULD protect you, as they have done in the EU and Australia. It's pure idiocy... plain and simple.

Other arguments might also be true, but you seem to know what it boils down to. Mr. liblies knows what he is talking about.

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Yup, even in the presence of overwhelming data, they still refuse to open their eyes.

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America has lots of problems but guns arn't one of them. Taking them away from citizens who live is such a crime ridden state would just be stupid.

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