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Sorry my message was too long to do in one post. So,,,
Continued. Choosing a weapon part two. If you do plan on carrying concealed, you need to pick one that you can carry comfortably. If it is comfortable you are more likely to carry it. Those of us that are not used to carrying or shooting may just want to go with a wheel gun (revolver) they are inherently more powerful, and it is six guaranteed shots. They can not jam, and they will not fail to function unless there is something seriously wrong with them. But as they are more powerful, they are harder to accurately place follow on shots. So you have to practice more. I am a big guy so I can carry a full sized Kimber fairly easily. But my wife is smaller, so she needs a smaller weapon. As I have said before, she decided to go with the Glock 36. It is a weapon that is chambered in .45, it has a single stack mag. It is very reliable, and as it is just a trigger safety, there is one less thing to think about when you do have to draw your weapon. But because it is just a trigger safety, you have to be mindful of handling the weapon. ALSO pay attention when breaking the weapon down, to remove the slide, you have to release the trigger by pulling it. So MAKE SURE you clear the weapon before attempting this. Yes I know that should seem like common sense, but sometimes people forget things. Now, dealing with the cops if they show up during, or just after you use your weapon to defend yourself. Do not make any sudden movements. Cops are humans just like us, and as such are subseptable to stress. I would suggest against dropping your weapon as dropping it can (rarely) cause it to fire. Years ago an off duty cop was involved in a shooting, the cops showed up he dropped his weapon, it fired. The cops shot him dead. Most cops will show up and say (it is almost universal now) police don't move. You should respond Police don't shoot (even if you are not a cop). Do not try to help them, just do not move. Let them handle it. I am sure some of the anti gunners will come in here and try to start something. But I ask that you do not. If you do, prepare to be in a mental battle armed with a slingshot when your opponent is armed with a howitzer.
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I'll just add a pre-emptive mod warning: this is a dedicated gun usage/characteristics thread. It's not about gun control, or the Second Amendment, or anything like that. So please don't come here to start such arguments. There are plenty of threads for that already.
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Thank you Ray.
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Two questions.
I don't have a concealed permit (and depending on where I live may have a hard time getting one). But if I do what is you opinion of pistol reliability. I've gone target shooting with .45's and 9mm and I have not been impressed with reliability. Both for jamming and other odd things (like the rear sight getting knocked out of alignment from regular firing). Second what do you think about laser sights? They're coming out with ones that are easier and easier to integrate into a gun. It would seem to be an advantage as you could focus more on the attacker than on your sight picture. |
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I do not think I have ever had a stoppage with any Kimber built gun I have ever owned. And Glock is supposed to be extremely reliable as well. But if you just do not feel comfortable with an automatic, go with a wheel gun. There is nothing wrong with that. And in a defense situation, you should not need to fire off more than three or four shots. About the whole rear sight thing. That is odd. A lot of pistols use a restriction fit, meaning it had to be pressed in. But some like the 92FS are different and use a screw fit so jarring may move them. If you are having this problem you should be able to take it to any gun smith and get it tightened up. Quote:
There are several laser sites available now that fit directly into the buffer spring in the slide. So it does not mess with your carry. But as I understand it, you can not dial it in, it is just fixed. So you will not be driving nails with it. But you will be getting rounds on target. I always teach to fire with both eyes open, that way you can sight in and pay attention to your attacker.
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C-D-P....
Good post with good info. Sunnyside, Reliability depends on a lot of factors. I've used a Ruger .45 for several years and the only problem I've had with it was a box of rounds I got from a friend. I don't the make (and never should have used them) but the walls were weak and they would distort enough after firing that they would jam. Proper use and cleaning, along with using quality ammo (not nessassarily expensive) can eliminate many reliability issues. |
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First off you need to figure out what you plan on doing with this weapon. Is it to be used as a range gun, or do you want it for personal protection? If all you want is a weapon to take to the range and blow off rounds then you may want to look at a .22lr target pistol. The rounds are cheap, and it is easy to handle. It has a very light slide, very low recoil, and very low muzzle signature. But not the best weapon for personal protection, although, like I said earlier, a .22 to the chest is better than a .50 AE to the leg. The Browning Buck Mark .22 Auto is great for this. It is decently priced, and pretty durable.
Now for defense, are you planning on getting a CCW, or do you just want it sitting on your nightstand? Or if you have kids, in a bed side safe. If you go with a bedside safe, you have multiple options. I would suggest against a regular combination lock. It takes time to unlock those. Key locks are pretty good, and fairly cheap to buy. After you put your kids to bed you can lock your door and put the key in it for easy access. Or you fork over the extra cash and get one of these The finger print safe is about the best way to go, You can get in them faster, and only you can access them. There are other types out there, but these are the most common. Also, do not solely rely on a bedside safe to keep your weapon from being stolen when you are not home. Crooks can easily pick it up and break into it when they get back to their own home. So I would also suggest a fixed wall safe to store it while you are gone. Now say you do not plan on carrying concealed, and only want it for home defense. First off remember that you are better off going with a rifle. But depending on where you live, a good rifle may be more difficult to get a hold of, and they are more difficult to store close to your bed. So we will just talk about pistols for now. For straight up home defense a longer pistol is always better, the more distance you have between the front and rear sight, the more room for error you have when aiming. But if you plan on carrying concealed, then you may want to go with a compact or a sub compact. But remember the smaller you go, the less room for error with talking about aiming. Also, the smaller you go, the less room you have for things like larger feed ramps, ejection ports, and extra rounds. But if you are carrying, you should not have to fire off more than three or four rounds. Glock, Taurus, Sig, and Colt all make pistols with fairly light slides. So you can easily work the action, and in a tense situation you do not want to be struggling with the slide. The Glock 21 is an excellent choice for home defense. It is a full sized pistol chambered in .45. Everyone, regardless of size can handle it, I do not care what anyone says. With proper training, and good aggressive stances, everyone can handle the recoil. But not the best choice for a concealed carry weapon. While it is a full-sized weapon, it is not overly bulky. It has a fairly slim profile, and is very reliable. But if you feel you will not be able to handle it, you can always go with a Glock 17, or a Glock 22. Remember, any round center mass will hurt the target, and will eventually kill the target. You really can not go wrong with Glock, they are a great weapon. But you do have to be careful with the trigger safety. But as I said before, in a stressful situation, it is nice to know that you did not forget to take if off safe. Glock 30 is a good choice for a concealed gun, it is chambered in .45, its mag holds ten rounds, and it can accept a full sized mag if you want. Glock 36 is another good compact, but it only has a single stack six round mag, and can not accept regular full sized mags. But as it is a single stack, it has a much slimmer profile, and as such, is easier to conceal, and is more comfortable to wear. Purse guns are worthless because they take more time to draw to bear. Taurus also makes a great weapon. They are reliable, and the compact models have fairly light slides. The Taurus PT 145 is a good carry gun. It is chambered in .45 and I hear it is very comfortable to carry. I have only fired it a few times, but I did experience a few stoppages because of its compact nature. A good weapon that I did not mention before is the Springfield XD. But (unless I am wrong) they do not make a compact in .45, only .40 and 9mm. And the subcompact only comes in 9mm, and the Springfield's tend to be a bit cheaper price wise without being cheaper quality wise.Once again, any round center mass will kill. The only difference is how long it takes for them to bleed out. Bigger holes mean a faster bleed. There are even a few gun makers that make custom finishes for their weapons. Hell Glock even makes a Glock 17 with a pink slide, pink trigger, and pink tips for the mag. But I guess that would be up to you. I guess it would match those new shoes If you simply do not like any of the automatics you have tried out, then go with a wheel gun. As I have said, and will continue to say, there is nothing wrong with them. They are still very good pistols. But they do require some extra training to get rounds on target quickly. There are hundreds of pistols to choose from. You can get all the advice in the world, but you have to choose your piece. Every shooter is different, and has different preferences. Another thing. Most men will determine the way they dress by the piece they carry. I hope this does not seem sexist, I do not mean it to. But most women will not take this into account, so they need to take more care in choosing their carry weapon. I have found through years of working with firearms, and spending time at the range, that a woman will be more likely to leave her carry gun at home if it does not fit well with a certain outfit that she really wants to wear. So YOU HAVE TO take care in choosing what you carry. My wife likes to look good in her clothes. She likes to wear her boobie shirts during the summer, and while wearing them, it is hard to carry without everyone knowing you are carrying. That is why I was happy when she decided to go with the G36. She can easily conceal it in her beltline while wearing a tight top. A few of the types of carry I see the most. Inside the belt is easier to conceal, but less comfortable for most, outside the belt is more comfortable but harder to conceal. And I doubt any of us will be wearing fannypacks. A lot of people really like the rear carry. All this is, is an inside the belt carry with the weapon placed just off center of your back. It is comfortable, and easy to conceal. But it takes longer to draw from this carry. The strong side carry is probably the easiest to draw from, but is hard to conceal, especially if you are a bit overweight. It is also not very comfortable if you carry inside the belt. My personal favorite is the spleen carry. This is in the front, just off center closer to your strong side. It is fairly comfortable, easily concealed, and easy to draw. I feel that it is the best balance between all the factors. But all of this comes down to personal preference, YOU have to figure out what works best for you.
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