Gun talk split out of the member pictures thread.

[C-D-P]

Originally Posted by Tarheeler

I've hit my limit of 8. I can't buy anymore until I buy the wife one for CC, but she hasn't made up her mind on what she wants.

Is she a good shooter?

[raytri]

Originally Posted by Herkdriver

Yeah I hear ya. Most of my "fun" money goes to hookers & booze.

JUST KIDDING.

My Springfield XD was around 500 dollars, that's about it for me, till it breaks.

Even that's too rich for me. My gun collection consists of inherited hunting rifles and shotguns. No pistols, and nothing newer than the 1960s, either.

Most interesting weapons I have are a Springfield .30-06 and a .303 British jungle carbine, both WWII vintage.

[Tarheeler]

Very. She learned long guns in JROTC and the Air Force, and I've helped her with hand guns. She used a friend's Beretta .25 for the safety class for her CC and fell in love with it; she'd be better off thowing a baseball at someone than carring that. I need to take her out to a range so she can try others out, just havn't had the time.

[JLB]

Originally Posted by C-D-P

There is nothing wrong with spending money on weapons. It just takes time.

I started collecting when I was 18, I recently finished my U.S. collection, and have since started on my Russian collection.

This is the man to see about your Russian collection.

Dennis Kroh @ www.empirearms.com

Originally Posted by C-D-P

I do not make much, you just have to know where to look.

One thing JLB, I would seriously suggest leaning into your shot. That leaning back thing just dont work. Try out the isosceles, it will not fail you.

My target was a Buick sled that was about 30 yards away on a berm, so I was just doing a little hosing. There were about 20 other guys shooting machine guns at the same time. I use the wood stock and the optics in subgun matches locally.

As for the icosoles, I use a modified form in IDPA, and I shoot a CZ-75 in SSP class. I took 5th in my state match in SSP, and now I shoot a Smith 625 in SSR (stock service revolver) class. I shoot it fast enough to win stages in our local matches against guys shooting 1911s.



My son has 5 guns of his own, and her he is shooting his S&W Model 34-1 a few years back. He now shoots my Model 66, as I limit him to revolvers on his pistol shooting, and he shoots full power magnum loads.


He also shoots my Uzi and AR-15 quite well.

Age 5:


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[JLB]

Age 11:

Note the finger outside the trigger guard.

[JLB]

Originally Posted by raytri

Even that's too rich for me. My gun collection consists of inherited hunting rifles and shotguns. No pistols, and nothing newer than the 1960s, either.

Most interesting weapons I have are a Springfield .30-06 and a .303 British jungle carbine, both WWII vintage.

I love Enfields. I've had just about every version, from a SMLE #4MkII that I shot in military matches, to a #5 Jungle Carbine that was brutal to shoot, and had the typical wandering zero as the barrel heated up.

[raytri]

Originally Posted by JLB

I love Enfields. I've had just about every version, from a SMLE #4MkII that I shot in military matches, to a #5 Jungle Carbine that was brutal to shoot, and had the typical wandering zero as the barrel heated up.

We used 'em for deer hunting growing up. The Springfield always seemed more accurate than the .303, but we put that down to either the shooter (the younger hunter tended to get the .303) or the shorter barrel.

And both were worlds better than the 20-gauge over/under shotgun (loaded with slugs) that the unlucky third hunter got. I don't think we ever actually hit anything with that.

[C-D-P]

Originally Posted by JLB

This is the man to see about your Russian collection.

Thanks. Seriously.

Originally Posted by JLB

As for the icosoles, I use a modified form in IDPA, and I shoot a CZ-75 in SSP class. I took 5th in my state match in SSP, and now I shoot a Smith 625 in SSR (stock service revolver) class. I shoot it fast enough to win stages in our local matches against guys shooting 1911s.

Everyone has their preferences, and every gun nut has their opinion (including myself). But in my professional opinion, from training near thousands of Marines, when it comes to shooting at flesh instead of paper, practicing and becoming proficient at killing bodies, you can not go wrong with the isosceles.

I became intimately familiar with it at a young age (of 20) through blunt force trauma (lots of training, and repetitive motion) and went on to be distinguished at both pistol and rifle intramural team level for both the 2 Mar Div team, and Marine Corps Intramural comps (by the time I attained the rank of Lance Corporal). Best score rifle was 249 of 250, and pistol was 422 of 425. Since I returned to the FMF I have fired range high every time.

As a child I was taught nothing but IDPA. Once I learned, and was used to isosceles, I could not even think of going back, nor can I suggest anything else for any other shooter. It is just good practice for the real thing (which is why a majority of us carry). It does take some getting used to for firing rifle in the offhand, but once you do, it works better.

It is great that you are teaching your boy, all parents should have the pleasure. My oldest son is four, and recently fired his first wheel gun.

Once again, I am not saying I know it all, and different things work for different shooters. I am not saying that I am the best, because I am not. And I am NOT saying that my qualifications outweigh anyone else's. But it will do you right, if you let it.

Edit:

BTW, I may have a 30-40 Krag coming through soon that may need a home. I already have one, and have no need for another.

[JLB]

Originally Posted by C-D-P

Thanks. Seriously.

He hand picks every gun. You need to get on his e-mail list for the good stuff. I live only an hour away, so scored many, many really cool guns.

Originally Posted by C-D-P

Everyone has their preferences, and every gun nut has their opinion (including myself). But in my professional opinion, from training near thousands of Marines, when it comes to shooting at flesh instead of paper, practicing and becoming proficient at killing bodies, you can not go wrong with the isosceles.

I became intimately familiar with it at a young age (of 20) through blunt force trauma (lots of training, and repetitive motion) and went on to be distinguished at both pistol and rifle intramural team level for both the 2 Mar Div team, and Marine Corps Intramural comps (by the time I attained the rank of Lance Corporal). Best score rifle was 249 of 250, and pistol was 422 of 425. Since I returned to the FMF I have fired range high every time.

As a child I was taught nothing but IDPA. Once I learned, and was used to isosceles, I could not even think of going back, nor can I suggest anything else for any other shooter. It is just good practice for the real thing (which is why a majority of us carry). It does take some getting used to for firing rifle in the offhand, but once you do, it works better.

I'm not disagreeing.

I'm 45, and I think it's too late for this old dog to learn any new tricks. I've used isocoles, Weaver, and modified versions of both. I don't even think about what I'm doing any more, as it's all repetitive muscle memory now.

Originally Posted by C-D-P

It is great that you are teaching your boy, all parents should have the pleasure. My oldest son is four, and recently fired his first wheel gun.

Once again, I am not saying I know it all, and different things work for different shooters. I am not saying that I am the best, because I am not. And I am NOT saying that my qualifications outweigh anyone else's. But it will do you right, if you let it.

So, are you a Marine? I actually learned how to shoot bullseye from a Vietnam-era Gunny who I worked with. He was on the Marine pistol team, and was also an armorer. He built me my first 1911 "hardball" gun, and I also started shooting a Smith Model 52 automatic in .38 special, a 70 Series Gold up, and a Python. That guy could shoot like nobody I've ever seen.

Originally Posted by C-D-P

Edit:

BTW, I may have a 30-40 Krag coming through soon that may need a home. I already have one, and have no need for another.

I've had one, and loved it. My milsurp days are over, however. I was lucky enough to own most of them when they were still dirt cheap. Dennis at Empire will pay top dollar for it though.

[C-D-P]

Originally Posted by JLB

He hand picks every gun. You need to get on his e-mail list for the good stuff. I live only an hour away, so scored many, many really cool guns.

Ok cool. My collectors pieces are limited to U.S. military standard issue service rifles (Class III where it applies, and only authentic, no parts guns), LMGs and MMGs (DMIL, or Class III). and a select few subguns (again either DMIL or Class III). As I said earlier I recently closed out my U.S. Collection (kind of, the only thing I am missing is a 249), and started up my Russian (I kind of started out odd by going AKM before AK47). But I did get a steal on a MG42 a while back, so I am looking at German weapons as well.

Sides? Not so much, I only own those for personal defense and carry.

I'm not disagreeing.

I'm 45, and I think it's too late for this old dog to learn any new tricks. I've used isocoles, Weaver, and modified versions of both. I don't even think about what I'm doing any more, as it's all repetitive muscle memory now.

Roger that. I understand ya. When I started teaching my wife on different automatics, I just couldn't get used to Tap Rack Ready, it is automatic for me to put the mag in and hit the slide lock cause I use one type of pistol for use (both civ and mil), but as she carries multiple types, she needs to learn Tap Rack Ready (the (*)(*)(*)(*) slide lock on those Glocks are fricking small).

Like I said, we all have our preferences. But it does not hurt to learn. And if I were to start carrying a different side (and it will happen) I would need to learn that method. So I guess I better start learning now. You can teach an old dog new tricks. The MB proved it .

So, are you a Marine? I actually learned how to shoot bullseye from a Vietnam-era Gunny who I worked with. He was on the Marine pistol team, and was also an armorer. He built me my first 1911 "hardball" gun, and I also started shooting a Smith Model 52 automatic in .38 special, a 70 Series Gold up, and a Python. That guy could shoot like nobody I've ever seen.

Very nice.

I've had one, and loved it. My milsurp days are over, however. I was lucky enough to own most of them when they were still dirt cheap. Dennis at Empire will pay top dollar for it though.

I may have to get hold of him then. I am always looking to make a good sale. But am unwilling to sell any of my pieces. The last piece I sold was an HK USP Tac. Kicked myself in the arse for it. Will never do it again.