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Old 04-14-2008, 05:16 PM
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What Obama said about small town America sure seemed to be worded unortunately, but don't you think it's being blown out of proportion? People are saying that they feel threatened and that their Second Amendment right to bear arms is being threatened by Obama. Clinton is now saying that American's should have the right to bear arms, but in reality, was a strong fighter for tougher gun control. Obama said he thinks people who lost their jobs turn to guns. Makes sense. But whose Second Amendment right is he threatening? He didn't mention anything about revoking the right!
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Barack Obama's Gun-Related Votes The U.S. Senate Debated: Obama
Voted:

Supporting concealed carry for citizens10 Anti-gun
Banning many common semi-automatic firearms11 Anti-gun
Disallowing self-defense in towns where guns are banned12 Anti-gun
Imposing one handgun a month restrictions13 Anti-gun
Requiring lock up your safety trigger locks14 Anti-gun
Protecting gun dealers from frivolous lawsuits15 Anti-gun
Outlawing gun confiscations during a national emergency16 Pro-gun
Squelching the free speech rights of gun owners17 Anti-gun
Restricting the interstate sales of firearms18 Anti-gun
Repealing the gun ban in Washington, DC19 Anti-gun

http://www.gunowners.org/pres08/obama.htm


Obama regularly supported gun-control measures, including a ban on semiautomatic "assault weapons" and a limit on handgun purchases to one a month.

He also opposed letting people use a self-defense argument if charged with violating local handgun bans by using weapons in their homes. The bill was a reaction to a Chicago-area man who, after shooting an intruder, was charged with a handgun violation.

Supporters framed the issue as a fundamental question of whether homeowners have the right to protect themselves.

Obama joined several Chicago Democrats who argued the measure could open loopholes letting gun owners use their weapons on the street. They said local governments should have the final say, but the self-defense exception passed 41-16 and ultimately became state law.

"It's bad politics to be on the wrong side of the Second Amendment come election time," said Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association. "It will certainly be talked about. You can take that to the bank."

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I think it was a pretty obnoxious statement, but not the worst from this clown/presidential wannabe. I think the "getting stuck with a baby" remark was pretty disgusting. How would you like to be a baby stuck with him for your father?
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I actually don't mind a one gun a month type arrangement. The fact that gun dealers continue to sell 20 and 30 handguns a month to people who are obvious criminals and smugglers is the reason that such a law is in place. Most gun dealers have something click in their mind when someone makes a huge handgun purchase, but some are just like profits are profits, who cares if they all end up on the black market to kill people later in the year.
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I actually don't mind a one gun a month type arrangement. The fact that gun dealers continue to sell 20 and 30 handguns a month to people who are obvious criminals and smugglers is the reason that such a law is in place. Most gun dealers have something click in their mind when someone makes a huge handgun purchase, but some are just like profits are profits, who cares if they all end up on the black market to kill people later in the year.

I have, within 10 feet of me right now,three Glocks, two S&W revolvers (625 and 66) an AR-15 carbine, a Colt Delta Elite, a Colt Combat Commander, a Sig 239, and Kahr PM9, and an Uzi submachine gun.

You wouldn't see a single one, but they are there, and they are all loaded.
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Obama said he thinks people who lost their jobs turn to guns. Makes sense.
I'm trying to figure out what that means. Does he mean they are going to shoot their former bosses?? What exactly does supporting the 2nd amendment have to do with job loss?
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I'm trying to figure out what that means. Does he mean they are going to shoot their former bosses?? What exactly does supporting the 2nd amendment have to do with job loss?
I think he was just speaking symbolically. Small-town and rural people are culturally different from urban people. When they lose their jobs they are reluctant to move to an urban centre where they would easily be able to find another one. Why, because they like their culture of hunting, fishing, camping, etc... They don't want to give this up and be assimilated into urban culture, so they choose to stay in rural areas and stay unemployed.
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I have, within 10 feet of me right now,three Glocks, two S&W revolvers (625 and 66) an AR-15 carbine, a Colt Delta Elite, a Colt Combat Commander, a Sig 239, and Kahr PM9, and an Uzi submachine gun.

You wouldn't see a single one, but they are there, and they are all loaded.
lol Wow, you live in that much fear?
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