Depends on the ammunition

A FMJ bullet will penetrate walls

You shoot a neighbor...

You go to jail.

It's best to use pre-fragmented bullets.

Sir.

One of the very reasons we are looking to the 6.5 or 6.8 as a replacement for the 5.56x45 is its inability to retain a lethal velocity after hitting fairly soft walls inside 200 m. The yaw that it experiences in flesh is also seen at high velocities in hardened objects. As the M193 (55 gr) uses such a light projectile, it does not do well in harder than flesh objects. Neither does the M855 (62gr) round. The steel penetrator (or tungsten for the M855 lead free round) in the M855 does give it a slight advantage over the M193 in penetration of harder than flesh objects.

Additionally, both of these rounds will tend to disintegrate completely in the target at distances you could expect to fire at inside the home (the M855 will disintegrate less than the M193, retaining on average of 30% its initial mass, but rarely exiting the body). They also cause a much larger wound channel than even a .45 Federal HST will.

There are other reasons to use a M4 style rifle for home defense as well. Most notably the higher hit probability because of the longer sight range (distances between front sight post and rear sight aptiture).

Much of this is covered in my learning firearms thread.

Some of the pre-fragmented rounds (extreme shock for example) are complete frauds.

But yes, some of the pre-fragmented rounds work rather nicely. The M193 standard ball round is all you really need.

Lemas's BMT is a total fraud. But that is something for another time.

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Someone hijacked my sig again.

You don't have to call me sir.

Here's my take on the situation.

I'm not a ballistics guru, but I'm stepping back and looking at this situation from afar.

We could all arm ourselves to the teeth. Electify our fences, fortify our homes...install .50 caliber roof mounted turrets w/ 360 degree range of fire.......

or

we could figure out what in the HELL is wrong with our Culture that we feel the need or maybe have the need to do this.....

I do not ever want to take away your right to own firearms...

Ever.

This is a Constitutionally protected right.

However.....

by ignoring the underlying causes of Violence...arming ourselves solves nothing.

Where does it stop?

Jump-jets as commuter transportation?

Actually arming ourselves may solve the issue. If enough idiots try to break in my home, then they won't be reproducing. Change through enforced darwinism.

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I agree. We do have a violence problem (not a gun problem). But until such time that we figure out how to deal with that problem, I will take necessary precautions to ensure that my family is protected from those that would violate their rights and do violence to them. While at the same time studying and working up ways to make us all better off.

From what I have seen, removing these weapons from the hands of the honest man is not how to go about it.

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That sounds like a good recipe for making the problem worse. If you criminalize guns, only criminals have them.

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I see it as a breakdown in Social discourse....

Man as God.

I used to carry a weapon.

I don't any more.

If I'm killed, so be it.

I can't in good concious carry a tool designed chiefly to take a human life.

I am not God.

I will not take a human life.

I believe that by shaking this Male mystique as an ethos driven "protector" one can explore the true Nature of self independent of pride.

The mark of Courage is to avoid fights.

This "gun culture" is reflected in many aspects of American life.

I can no longer accept this as compatible with my belief system.

I don't want guns or pornography in my home. That does not mean I want to take

someone else's right to do this away, but I choose not to.

This isn't a Combat Zone...I left that in the Middle East, this is supposed to be my hometown, this is supposed to be refuge and non-Violence starts with me...

What does the gun protect?

A World void of serenity and peace?

I'd rather be killed and enter a greater place than protect a SEWER.....

"God has left the building"

Let it burn.

I understand, and respect your opinion. But I see it this way.

Jesus said, "But now whoever has a purse or a bag, must take it and whoever does not have a sword must sell his cloak and buy one." (Luke 22:36)

"When a strong man, fully armed, guards his house, his possessions are safe." (Luke 11:21)

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Someone hijacked my sig again.

I like UTG 870 more. although we're strictly banned here to have guns, but if I find one here, I'll surely buy it.

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I crave therefore I am and that is all I ever feel
I hoped you'd understand, One love, One pain, One enemy
I toast to misery, as I dig into the devil's bone
And for eternity the pain became me
Unholy me alone...

Yes apologies for the philosophical rant.

I am suffering from insomnia and too much caffeine.

I went from Assault weapons ban to a diatribe on American society.

So apologies.

As a future politician, perhaps, I will always defend your right to own firearms.

I think it's a mistake myself.

Your home should not be just another killing zone.

but.....I don't want to lose sight of what I protected for 19 years, the Constitution...apologies for the breakdown.

Just a cathartic release.