I understand, and no apology needed. These types of threads generally go philosophical pretty fast.

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Philosophy has it's place, but so does pragmatism.

Crime is real.

Gun ownership is understandable.

I support your right to own SEMI-automatic assault weapons.

I draw the line at FULL-auto.

So I can shoot people and things, just not at 800 rounds a minute?

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yes.

I do have several class III weapons. But honestly. I only own them as part of a collection.

Never in all my deployments have I seen or felt a need to fire on anything but semi. I will leave the wall O lead to the SAW and crew serves.

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The rates of Gun-deaths went down, faster than they had been going down before the ban.

Check the source I gave you.




Funny how you see a correlation between race and gun deaths, and not guns and gun-deaths.


Regardless of how it is phrased: they have always had stricter gun laws. They have always had lower gun-death rates.



Mass? What?

It studies rates. Rates are what make it possible to compare them.



That's because local gun laws are undermined by extremely lax policies in other states.

Most of the guns used in crimes in this city come from out of state.

As I've said before, I think we can agree that what works in Asheville wouldn't work in New York City, and vice-versa.

If NC took a few reasonable steps toward regulating guns, it would enable New York to do what it wants, while respecting law-abiding gun owners.

Yes it showed that the number of suicides went down, not violent crimes. But the number of suicides has remained fairly static. Just done with other tools.

I guess it is ok for people to commit suicide so long as they didn't use a gun.

Dead is dead. It did not reduce the crime level, so it did nothing. But there is a clear correlation between demographics. Early intervention and education has worked pretty well, and it does not violate anyone's rights.


There are a lot of factors that contribute to that. Guns are a small part of that.


Mass shootings. But as they only had them that few years, you could not establish a pattern. Sure they havent had one in 10 years. But how long had it been before? This logic worked for you and terrorist attacks. Guess it will work here too.

As I said before. The number of suicides by gun went down. Not the numbers of killings. As the number of suicides did not change, gun control didn't change anything.

No, it is because we are focusing on a tool, and not the criminal.

I would like to see a source for that.

Sure it does. Enable the citizens to protect themselves, while keeping them out of the hands of criminals. But gun control does not help that as it only keeps guns from honest people.

Well, you seem to like to compare things. So,,, Look at the crime level in NC, and that of NY. We have guns, and less crime.

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The size of Australia is very deceptive, seeing as a good part of it is desert.

Handgun crime 'up' despite ban

Handguns were banned following the Dunblane massacre
A new study suggests the use of handguns in crime rose by 40% in the two years after the weapons were banned.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1440764.stm

Im saving that one!

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