Because the US Military, in all of its might, certainly hasn't had trouble clearing out the insurgency in Iraq or anything....or Afghanistan...or Vietnam...

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Trouble is - this sort of thing escalates - next you have far too many civilian casualties

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you mean like the casualties in urban neighborhoods which has as of yet been corrected?

of course - a civil war would escalate - that would be the point of a war.

What disturbs me are who on the other side would be fighting against me (a conservative)

Over 50% of all liberals fit in one of 2 groups

1. anti gun people
2. possessors of stolen guns (mainly urban youth).

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Though the main argument here is for them to be used against local governments (see:Battle of Athens, I already posted the story on page 20), or non government factions that pose a threat (if for whatever reason, the government can't stop them, which I wouldn't rule out), it is possible civil war would break out. In which case, it wouldn't be ''this half of the country vs. that half'' as we have seen in the past, it would likely be people from all over going against the current government. In which case, nuclear missles and the like wouldn't be necessary, as the government couldn't get away with blowing up entire cities on their own soil.

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Armed action is only ever really necessary against a government, law enforcement agenc that is already using violence, by shooting people THEMSELVES if we peacfully demand they leave. If the majority of people want them out, yet they stay, they need to be removed by force. Yes, I know the people who the government will send out (soldiers, police) are relatively innocent, but that's just too bad. If we applied this argument to all war, all war would be considered unjust. Should we have used Ghandis tactics against Hitler, after willfully allowing him to invade Britain? Should we have used Ghandis tactics against the Japanese after willfully allowing them to invade the USA and Australia? We should, according to you, given it's not the Japanese and German soldiers' fault that their leaders are out of control.

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NRA to settle suit over Katrina gun seizures Posted by Michael Kunzelman/Associated Press October 08, 2008 12:24PM NEW ORLEANS (AP) _ City officials have agreed to return hundreds of firearms that police officers confiscated in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, part of a deal to resolve a lawsuit filed by gun lobbying groups. The settlement agreement filed Tuesday in federal court calls for the National Rifle Association and Second Amendment Foundation to drop their case if the city follows a plan for returning guns to owners who had them seized by police after the Aug. 29, 2005, hurricane. Both sides also are asking U.S. District Judge Carl Barbier to sign off on the pact and issue a permanent injunction barring the city from seizing lawfully possessed firearms. Barbier didn't immediately rule on the agreement, which doesn't involve a monetary award. Police department spokesman Bob Young said it has stored 552 guns that were confiscated after Katrina, through Dec. 31, 2005. Police have said they only took guns that were stolen or found in abandoned homes.

The video above was a gun in an abandoned home ... can you tell?

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No but Hitler was invading another country - Gandhi's tactics DID work, and worked very well against the British Empire, who were not exactly nice people at that time.

But there have been many, many other examples of peaceful revolution since Gandhi - Philippines comes to mind

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If I were you I would NOT use Katrina as a good example of gun use - you have NO idea how poorly you looked in the eyes of the rest of the world when we heard of rescuers being shot at.

It sickened many here.

We have had some pretty impressive disasters here ourselves and we would NEVER shoot at each other. IF you caught someone looting you would take him out the back and kick his arse so hard his bum would wrap around his head.

Disasters are a time to work together not to shoot at each other.

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... and if you saw the little old lady in that video who got body slammed by the cop - how do you compare that to those who she needed the gun to protect herself?

THINK ABOUT IT LIKE THIS:

Auto accidents have caused MANY horrendous deaths of children - why not BAN them?

It's not the tool - it is the moron using it the wrong way who is the problem.

You mentioned the rescuers being shot at? What if they were armed? you think those self centered thugs would have shot at them? They were predator's - they only attack what they think they can beat ... EASILY ... as a MOB!


... but what the media fails to clarify about those morons is they are a major part of what OUR liberal government has created by giving them the power to think they are entitled to more than they can do for themselves.

If you ever spent time in New Orleans you would find several things to be true...

1. it is called the "BIG EASY" for a reason.
2. many of the poor people there (and else where throughout the world) tend to be more predatory.
3. They think it is right to take from those who have what they won't get for themselves.
4. They have lost the sense of dignity that comes from earning what you have - thanks to socialized government give away programs.

ABSOLUTELY!! ... but without a gun ... how close would you get to them to stop them? You can trust this ... I am an armed person ... and to me it is my duty as a citizen to do what it takes to aid in the defense of my neighbors and others around me. I also understand that the police at times are too busy to get there fast enough to prevent an issue - which makes me the first line of prevention and defense until they can get there.

Personally - I have traveled nearly 1,500 miles (about 2,500k) to help in a disaster (when there were mud slides in Bountiful, Utah and I was in Buffalo, N.Y.) - someone even wrote a news story about my traveling that far to help (a waist of print!)

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Here's what Gandhi had to say about the British: