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Old 06-15-2005, 09:58 PM
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In the American Constitution, it is decreed that all men may arm themselves in the need of self-defense. Yet, does that mean one should keep a gun at home? Really, just how many people are going to start shooting at you? And, if it happens that you kill the person who was harassing you with a gun, will you take the blame for his or her death? It was in self-defense, yet is it right to do such things? I have a better way to stop all this.

Why do we even sell guns? Why don't we stop the sale of guns. The constitution says men may arm themselves, yet, that doesn't mean the handgun your all thinking about. No, it includes assault rifles, sub-machine guns, snipers... you name it! There is absolutely no reason people should have these kind of guns. And who do we think use these guns? Try terrorists. Why would they need to import guns? They can just buy'em right here in good ol' America.

If guns are completely banned from civilians, we have no fear of having to defend him or herself. I'm not saying that we should also go ahead and destroy our Kitchen knives like the UK is trying to do. That's ridiculous. No, I'm saying that only guns should be restricted. No little kids are going to stab themselves to death, unless, of course, they have serious mental... issues. Let's leave it at that. Guns however, are very dangerous. Kids always see them in movies, and smaller children may think the gun is a toy and with a pull of a trigger, a family member is on the ground, dead. Guns are not toys, and people don't miraculously survive like in those action movies. People die, and none of us have quite mastered the art of "doing the Matrix," at least, as far as I know we don't.

Do the right thing, save children, ban guns.
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In the American Constitution, it is decreed that all men may arm themselves in the need of self-defense. Yet, does that mean one should keep a gun at home? Really, just how many people are going to start shooting at you? And, if it happens that you kill the person who was harassing you with a gun, will you take the blame for his or her death? It was in self-defense, yet is it right to do such things? I have a better way to stop all this.

Why do we even sell guns? Why don't we stop the sale of guns. The constitution says men may arm themselves, yet, that doesn't mean the handgun your all thinking about. No, it includes assault rifles, sub-machine guns, snipers... you name it! There is absolutely no reason people should have these kind of guns. And who do we think use these guns? Try terrorists. Why would they need to import guns? They can just buy'em right here in good ol' America.

If guns are completely banned from civilians, we have no fear of having to defend him or herself. I'm not saying that we should also go ahead and destroy our Kitchen knives like the UK is trying to do. That's ridiculous. No, I'm saying that only guns should be restricted. No little kids are going to stab themselves to death, unless, of course, they have serious mental... issues. Let's leave it at that. Guns however, are very dangerous. Kids always see them in movies, and smaller children may think the gun is a toy and with a pull of a trigger, a family member is on the ground, dead. Guns are not toys, and people don't miraculously survive like in those action movies. People die, and none of us have quite mastered the art of "doing the Matrix," at least, as far as I know we don't.

Do the right thing, save children, ban guns.
And how do you propose stopping criminals from buying guns illegally like most criminals do because they can't pass a background inspection. How do citizens protect themselves from gun-wielding criminals if it's illegal for them to own guns?

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In the American Constitution, it is decreed that all men may arm themselves in the need of self-defense. Yet, does that mean one should keep a gun at home?
When defending one's self at home, he or she may very well need a gun there.

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Why do we even sell guns? Why don't we stop the sale of guns. The constitution says men may arm themselves, yet, that doesn't mean the handgun your all thinking about. No, it includes assault rifles, sub-machine guns, snipers... you name it!
You're right. The constitution states my right to own these weapons.

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There is absolutely no reason people should have these kind of guns.
The framers of the constitution disagreed with you.

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Why would they need to import guns? They can just buy'em right here in good ol' America.
Are terrorist cells here importing guns? I think we have a very strong black market of illegal guns for criminals to choose from.

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Guns however, are very dangerous. Kids always see them in movies, and smaller children may think the gun is a toy and with a pull of a trigger, a family member is on the ground, dead. Guns are not toys, and people don't miraculously survive like in those action movies. People die, and none of us have quite mastered the art of "doing the Matrix," at least, as far as I know we don't.
Bad parenting is not the society as a whole's fault. I never thought guns were toys. I was raised better than that.
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Before closing one's mind to the idea of allowing guns, perhaps one might do a little research as to the effects of gun-banning in the UK and the effects of the "right to carry" law in Texas.
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Locke,

Please heed your signature.

Also, in life, whenever you hear the phrase, "Do it for the children." immediately shout "BS!" and then go on from there (heed your siggy).

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Do the right thing, save children,
Why do gun haters chant this when guns are tenth on the list for cause of death for children? Nine other things kill far more children and there are no screams of “save children” with these items.
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And how do you propose stopping criminals from buying guns illegally like most criminals do because they can't pass a background inspection. How do citizens protect themselves from gun-wielding criminals if it's illegal for them to own guns?
Well, yeah, if you want to look at it factually! Why can't we just look at things based on emotions and knee-jerk, feel-good fluffy guesses? Just because there are laws that already ban criminals from having guns... we just need more laws.
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If people owned really nice guns, they wouldn't want to take the chance of losing them by committing crimes with them.

Yes, kiddies, I've come upon a small WWI P08 Luger collection that is for sale! Happy day! Happy day!

Do I need them? No! Do I want them? Like a stripper wants a garter full of $ bills! If I get them, will any crime be committed with them? Well, if I catch a thief trying to steal them, I'll be feeding him to my cat... in small bites... over the course of several weeks.
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In the American Constitution, it is decreed that all men may arm themselves in the need of self-defense. Yet, does that mean one should keep a gun at home? Really, just how many people are going to start shooting at you? And, if it happens that you kill the person who was harassing you with a gun, will you take the blame for his or her death? It was in self-defense, yet is it right to do such things? I have a better way to stop all this.

Why do we even sell guns? Why don't we stop the sale of guns. The constitution says men may arm themselves, yet, that doesn't mean the handgun your all thinking about. No, it includes assault rifles, sub-machine guns, snipers... you name it! There is absolutely no reason people should have these kind of guns. And who do we think use these guns? Try terrorists. Why would they need to import guns? They can just buy'em right here in good ol' America.

If guns are completely banned from civilians, we have no fear of having to defend him or herself. I'm not saying that we should also go ahead and destroy our Kitchen knives like the UK is trying to do. That's ridiculous. No, I'm saying that only guns should be restricted. No little kids are going to stab themselves to death, unless, of course, they have serious mental... issues. Let's leave it at that. Guns however, are very dangerous. Kids always see them in movies, and smaller children may think the gun is a toy and with a pull of a trigger, a family member is on the ground, dead. Guns are not toys, and people don't miraculously survive like in those action movies. People die, and none of us have quite mastered the art of "doing the Matrix," at least, as far as I know we don't.

Do the right thing, save children, ban guns.
i dont know why this argument is still being offered since it's been proven over and again that it is not logical. the way to stop people from killing people is to heal them of their violence, not take away rights.
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And when criminals go to Mexico to buy guns? Or Canada? And what about kitchen knives? Do you think kids intend to shoot themselves with the guns when they're playing around with friends? Do you think kids intend to stab each other when they're playing around with friends? Case in point, my brother had four finger sliced off in a knife fight at the age of 7, and he was just "playing around".

While it's true that the authors of the constitution wrote that before the existence of sniper rifles, assault rifles, or rifles at all, really, the point is moot. They wrote it, we adapted it.
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