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Old 02-04-2008, 11:19 PM
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It's kind of a long shot, I know, but think prohibition for one moment. Alcohol was banned and people went crazy, crime rates sky rocketed and the mafia was born. If we ban guns I would hate to see what happens next.
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Old 02-05-2008, 12:06 AM
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Yeah having a gun is not tht great but today i think its better to have one at your home coz " you you never know" ......
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Old 02-05-2008, 10:57 PM
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Yeah having a gun is not tht great but today i think its better to have one at your home coz " you you never know" ......
Every has that gun at home because "you never know", but we do know and these guns kill people.
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Old 02-07-2008, 04:16 AM
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for some reason people that apply for permits for firearms are less likely to kill people than those without. guns kill people but whether theirs a serial number on your gun or not seems to determine whether or not your going to murder someone. kind of a strange phenomenon don't ya think? while all the time the constitution says your allowed to have a gun no matter what. i geuss gun control is a way to seperate people that want to shoot each other from people that want to hunt, target shoot, and protect themselves. theres really no reason to ban guns at all since legal gun ownership has never proven to be a risk other than the occasional crazy and accidental shooting. bottom line if criminals have guns, police have guns, and the army has guns, normal citizens should always have the right to own guns. People will do whatever it takes to protect themselves from each other.
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Old 02-07-2008, 05:20 AM
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There are thousands upon thousands of documented cases of handguns being used to end lives.
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You can't deny that guns have killed many people who would otherwise be alive.
Oh, please, oh please... you are killing me here...

As a former law enforcement official, I have considered using deadly force twice in my life. Both times the situation was defused by that HUGE gun I had in my hands. I have seen the affect that it has on people. It is the great leveraged negociation tool.

Alarms deter most opportunists. Getting an alarm system costs between $120 to thousands in initial expenses. Add in a $20.00 a month to $400.00 a month monitoring fee, depending on how extensive you want the monitoring to be. But for those of you who don't have the money...

Personally, I would spend $60.00 at radio shack for decent exterior motion detector lights, alarm the door without the monitoring and buy a dog. Then put another $500.00 in a nice Glock. If the fool isn't deterred by the barking and bright light shining in his eyes, then he wont be afraid of anyone being armed inside the house. And that is the time to pull out the 40 cal. Try running out the back of your house with a pack of kids and a hysterical wife in tow. Home invasions historically are stopped very quickly with a well armed, well trained home owner.

I pitty the fool who thinks he's going to kick my door in.

But I have to hand it to the do no harm crowd. The very good recommendations of our initial poster would prevent 98% of thieves trying to break in, while they know someone is home. The last two percent don't even make a move against targets unless they are convinced that you have that golden $200.00 in your wallet to help them get high for the next few hours. Or they are convinced that they have enough firepower and muscle to tear that 200lb safe from your wall. And if that happens, unless you put up a fight, they aren't going to leave any witnesses behind.

I can't even count how many times, note worthy cases of people who were confronted by a home invasion, could have saved their families and friends by having the layered protection I have described.

However, for the .0001% of the cases of multiple attackers with East LA fire-power... Welcome to Pearl Harbor.

The best thing to do there is just lay down, face down and say nothing, do nothing, unless you are asked where the money is. Then give them all they ask for. Don't make any sudden moves. And pray they don't want a murder wrap hanging over their heads.

And for the .00000001% of the victims of home invasions. It pays to completely understand where you and your family members, friends, and visitors stand with God. Because no matter what you do, you will soon be standing before the judge of your life.
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Then put another $500.00 in a nice Glock.
I agree with a lot of the things you said except this. I live south of boston. I went to the qualifier at my gun club. A lot of cops have no clue how to handle firearms. They where playing around with AR-15's loaded pointing them at people in the club house. Most of them it's the only time they go to the range. My point is they're the last people I'm gonna call to defend me. Why would you buy a hangun for your home defence and not just to carry. If you shoot down the hall at someone the slug could go through a wall and hit one of your kids or someone in another house. Use a shotgun for home defense.

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Glocks are garbage anyways. Get a Sig.
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There are thousands upon thousands of documented cases of hand guns being used to save lives.

...and yet the USA has a rate of gun deaths which dwarfs comparable countries like Australia where there is strict gun control and every second idiot doesn't think he has a right to be Dirty Harry.

For something that supposed to save "thousands and thousands" of lives - these things end up killing an awful lot of Americans.

Perhaps you could give us details of these "thousands upon thousands of documented cases of hand guns being used to save lives" - or did you just make that up?
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...and yet the USA has a rate of gun deaths which dwarfs comparable countries like Australia where there is strict gun control and every second idiot doesn't think he has a right to be Dirty Harry.

For something that supposed to save "thousands and thousands" of lives - these things end up killing an awful lot of Americans.

Perhaps you could give us details of these "thousands upon thousands of documented cases of hand guns being used to save lives" - or did you just make that up?
The US has more guns per capita than any other country yet there are 24 countries with a higher murder rate per capita.

Obviously, guns aren't the problem.
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The US has more guns per capita than any other country yet there are 24 countries with a higher murder rate per capita.

Obviously, guns aren't the problem.
However USA ranks 24th in Death by Murder rate (with Western EU countires, asia pacific rim countries ranked well below) usa ranks currently 6th Murder by gun.

Use relative statistics when talking about this issue, dont white wash it like politicians in the press.

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