Your such an idiot its hard to know where to start. Look, anyone will sleep unless there is noise, so if someone breaks through a window or smashes a door, or an alarm goes off, people will hear it you idiot. Not everyone locks their doors, not everyone closes their windows, not everyone has an alarm, all someone has to do is enter quietly and they can club you in the head easily, a gun ain't gonna do @#$%. I am just saying if people do simple things like securing their house, they could usually prevent someone from just walking in, or at least make it an effort to get in.

I never said people don't kick in doors you moron, learn how to read, I said it would be stupid to kick down a door, especially a bedroom door which usually don't have locks, when you could just open it normally and not make any noise. If you were planning to kill someone and made it all the way outside their room, why would you kick down the door and wake them up? Wouldn't you just open the door like a normal person and have them still sleeping, so they couldn't grab the gun that is convientiently right next to them. Your scenerio is BS.

If you think I am for banning guns you are as stupid as can be. I have no problem with this women protecting herself with a gun.

Unfortunately I don't live in hick-town USA so I am not accustomed to rat shooting and baseball bat yielding sexual preditors. I have no problem with people having guns for protection, but if someone isn't even responsible enough to secure their house, I doubt a gun would come in handy, unless your shooting rats in the barn of course.

I personally do not interract with dangerous people, and my house is very safe at night, despite not living in a gated-community. I do not see how having a gun would benefit me. For other people that deal with child rapers and other dangerous people, perhaps a gun would come in handy for the odd time one would randomly attempt to kill you.

Yada Yada Yada. Moron. You think your safe because of the company you keep? HA! Ha! HA! Good Grief. OK Fine dumbAZZ. We can call each other names all you want. I know I'M safer than you so I'M fine. You ....well who cares you would be no loss to society any way.
The only reason people like you get to me at all is the threat to society that you are. Your as bad a threat as the terrorist are IMO. Why? Because you threaten our rights and that threatens all our safety. It's the threat of guns in houses that keeps you safe. You think a thief or predator of any sort is afraid of you security system? ....No dumbazz it's not knowing if you have a gun or not that worries them.

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A security system WILL keep you safe in your home. Theres little stickers on the windows and doors on houses with security systems. If you think thiefs and preditors are not afraid of security systems obviously your severely misguided. If you were a thief or preditor, which house would you choose to invade, the one with the security system or the one without, its common sense, something you lack obviously. Can a gun protect your house or children when your not even home? A security system can.

LOL, this statement is the biggest pile of BS I have heard for a long time. Obviously the possibility of someone having a gun "worries" a thief or preditor, but obviously they take the chance anyways.

I am not against the right to bear arms, so calling me as bad as a terrorist shows your stupidity. Having a security system will make you and your property safer then any gun would. You even get cheaper homeowners insurance if you have a security system, because those homes are less likely to get robbed.

I am only bothered by people who "think" a gun will make them safe, when they neglect to even do simple things such as lock their doors. So I don't see why you have a problem with me.

I have police officers only a half mile away from my home, I don't live in the desert, I live in town, however the local situation is as such that usually there is only ONE officer on duty. And their protocol dictates that when a call comes in with a potential for violence (any situation where I would need to defend myself) They have to wait for backup before they'll respond. And that can be anywhere from 30 minutes to several hours... So sorry to say that for me the cops aren't the answer, they can come and clean up the mess (whether that be me or the other guy... Hopefully the other guy) I have no delusions that a firearms keeps me safe, but It at least levels the playing field if I'm in a situation where force is being used against me.

Also BTW the supreme court has ruled that the police don't have a duty to protect individuals. So feel free to sleep on that the next time you have to call the police.

you're going to bash me for saying this, but Micheal Moore and his documentary "Bowling for Columbine" makes an interesting point. It may not be looking at all sides of the issues 100%, but most European countries have banned guns, and it shows in the annual gun accidents and murders.

you can't just look "gun" murders and accidents in nations that ban guns, you have to look at whether the murder rate actually went down after the gun ban. Because if gun murders go down, but stabbings skyrocket, that isn't a net gain. and all the gun ban did was change the weapon of choice.

Besides that, Mr. Moore's numbers are WAY out of whack... Feel free to research and compare them to the numbers he posts in his film. I think his bigger point has to do with the fearmongers controlling the public...

According to the Seventh (1998-2000) United Nations Survey of Crime Trends one notices the U.S. ranks 2nd (of 16) in Murders with Firearms per capita and 3rd (of 25) in overall murders per capita when compared with other OECD countries.

Its quite clear that other comparable countries with low firearm murder rates have no skyrocket in overall murder rates. Perhaps the U.S. (and Mexico) need to work on not only decreasing murder rates by firearms, but decreasing murder rates in general.

Actually in all fairness, it is mainly the Sunbelt States that have the atrocious murder rates. If the Sunbelt states followed suit with their Northern counterparts, the U.S. would have the low to average murders rates expected of a country of their prestige.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/...int=-1&id=OECD
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/...int=-1&id=OECD

0.02 per 1000 people or 2 per 100000 Yeah... that is REALLY high.

The problem with violence in the US is mostly related to illegal drugs, NOT guns. Even though many of those crimes are committed with guns.

If you're only comparing "firearms murders" then those nations with more liberal gun laws will most likely be higher, However that doesn't show you the whole picture.

If you look at the murder rate of ALL nations that reported it, the US in 24 of 25.

And of course, those stats for the US are 6 years old...

You making up excuses doesen't show the whole picture.

The point in comparing the U.S. with OECD countries is that it does show the whole picture, because none of those countries are economically impoverished or politically unstable. Obviously the U.S. will rank better when 2nd and 3rd world countries are tossed in... but who would take pride in that?

Its safe to conlcude the U.S. is doing something wrong, be it liberal gun laws, sloppy law enforcement or just ignorance around guns.

It certainly isn't the guns...

As I stated in the other thread, you have to look at gun crime and accidents in context of whether the crime was committed by someone who was legally able to own a firearm. Responsible gunowners when they kill in self defense are RARELY charged with a crime. So look at WHO is perpetrating crime not what tool they choose.

If the US has a problem, it isn't with guns... It is with criminals...

If you are serious about this I suggest you read John Lott's "More guns, Less Crime"

http://www.johnrlott.com/