then what is it about? This quote in the NY Times caught my eye this morning.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/10/he...t.html?_r=1&hp

everyone with a lick of sense knows this bill is walking dead, will not help a bit with health care costs yet Pelosi and the Administration is determined to waste more of Congress' time with it. what 's the point?

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Global warming alarmists are watermelons - green on the outside, red (socialist) on the inside

global warming , is there anything it cannot do ? http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm

peer reviewed studies and graphs of the Medieval Warming periods can be found at http://www.co2science.org/

Here's a quote from Obama's speech to the joint session:

This is a statement by Dr. David Janda
So, despite the arguable insanity of inacting this legislation as HCR, the federal and state beuracracy that must be put in place and sustained year after year are significant, complex and very, very expensive.

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Hillary Clinton: "We (the United States) tax everything that moves and doesn’t move"

Controlling people and their lives.

Cost is no concern to those who simply seek power over others.

^^^Gets it!!

And Obama's line about not adding a cent to the deficit was an unadulterated lie. Why isn't anyone calling him out on it? ~my bad, I already know why~

It's double or triple dip expensive. There's the cost of all these lay about regulators suckling at the public teat. Then there's the enormous cost of the questionable regulations they'll burden American business, public and medical providers with. Then there's the legal industrial complex fighting wars on all sides of this new crap regulation. Throw in the vast measure or mandatory unintended consequences associated with everything government spawned and it's the usual result.

We couldn't be more screwed.

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One Big Assed Mistake America - Advancing statism’s death grip on American dynamism.

Undermine our allies. Embolden our enemies. Diminish our country. Barack Who's Vain? Obama Doctrine 2009

Descartes' proof of existence, "I think therefore I am" will not work for a majority of voters in the last election.

“The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.” - Margaret Thatcher

and here's the bad news...

(I posted the link after this statement by Dr. David Janda)

http://biggovernment.com/2009/11/07/...tonight-in-dc/

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Hillary Clinton: "We (the United States) tax everything that moves and doesn’t move"

Of course, that is not the entire quote on the topic from Emanuel. In all fairness here's the rest.

He went on: “I’m sure there are a lot of people sitting in the shade at the Aspen Institute - my brother being one of them - who will tell you what the ideal plan is. Great, fascinating. You have the art of the possible measured against the ideal.’’

Here's a link to the story if you don;t want to sign up for a subscription.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/wa..._cost_cutting/

So, it seems to me that Emanuel is acknowledging that this bill will not make everyone happy. My question is as follows. So?

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God and Country are an unbeatable team; they break all records for oppression and bloodshed.

Patriotism is the religion of hell.

Liberals are evil and their going to take your baby away. Its the same BS over and over again.

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Economic Left/Right: 0.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.13

Somehow when this whole thing started I thought they were trying to lower health care costs. I realize that they cannot make everyone happy but this bill does not make anyone happy.

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Global warming alarmists are watermelons - green on the outside, red (socialist) on the inside

global warming , is there anything it cannot do ? http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm

peer reviewed studies and graphs of the Medieval Warming periods can be found at http://www.co2science.org/

Really? I thought it was to expand coverage. Now I know that I am wrong because Jackdog said otherwise with zero evidence to support his statements.

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I love America more than any other country in this world, and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually.

God and Country are an unbeatable team; they break all records for oppression and bloodshed.

Patriotism is the religion of hell.