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Old 11-28-2005, 07:28 AM
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I think that healthcare is important to have in every country.
And here I thought that the basis of international trade was that each country should produce that which they can produce more efficiently and trade with other nations for that which said other nations can produce most efficiently.
is it realistic to have one nation specializing in healthcare and importing it all over? I kind of like the idea because it would create a strong disincentive for war if only one nation controlled healthcare, despite how wretched or ridiculous that might sound. But think of the logistics... It would drive us all mad.
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Old 11-28-2005, 11:52 AM
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I think that healthcare is important to have in every country.
And here I thought that the basis of international trade was that each country should produce that which they can produce more efficiently and trade with other nations for that which said other nations can produce most efficiently.
is it realistic to have one nation specializing in healthcare and importing it all over? I kind of like the idea because it would create a strong disincentive for war if only one nation controlled healthcare, despite how wretched or ridiculous that might sound. But think of the logistics... It would drive us all mad.
Healthcarenation (whichever one that is) could (a) import sick people and export them back to their home countries once cured for a fee; (b) import medical students from all over the world and export them back to their home countries once educated for a fee; (c) produce and export medical technology all over the world for a fee. So, yes, it's do-able.
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would it be better for them to have doctors set up in all countries (like us with military bases)? That way treatment gets to the sick quicker. Still, sounds kind of rough. And most likely there would be more than one medical nation.
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would it be better for them to have doctors set up in all countries (like us with military bases)? That way treatment gets to the sick quicker. Still, sounds kind of rough. And most likely there would be more than one medical nation.
Medical doctors could be healthcarenation's main export... for a fee, of course.
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hhmm.......quite an issue this, sometimes over here in the UK i think....is the NHS worth it???? Then i thank the powers above here in the UK we don't have the same sytem thats in place over in the US.

Obviously both private and public healthcare systems have their advantages and disadvantages......whats important that a system is in place at all......

peoples welfare is what matters......
that is if you can wait long enough to get one, or if you can even get one due to your budget. As a matter of fact, I want to hear you say this when ever you take most prescription drugs or use any of a number of the technology private health care in the US has made possible. What is more disturbing is that you pay an obscene amount of taxes for the horrible system you have. Great thing this national health care is. I will take my capitalist health care any day over your socialist kind any day. I would rather go to my doctor tomorrow and get treatment that might take months for you to get. I do not gamble with my health. You are forced to.
He's absolutely right. I'll have to assert that Social Healthcare is unnatural and way too innefficient and cumbersome for any person with a brain to aspire to. Truthfully, I'm of the assumption that Socialized healthcare has more corruption and scandals than capitalist Healthcare could ever hope to compete with. Also, Socialized healthcare has never proven to stabilize the cost of Healthcare. Healthcare costs actually increase two and a half times faster than in capitilist healthcare for obvious reasons. My sober opinion is capitalist health care is the natural best way to go but it must be protected from nutjob gold-diggers that have pulverized it. It can no longer accomodate the majority of citizens because of this which is luckily preventable and can be guarded against.
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hhmm.......quite an issue this, sometimes over here in the UK i think....is the NHS worth it???? Then i thank the powers above here in the UK we don't have the same sytem thats in place over in the US.

Obviously both private and public healthcare systems have their advantages and disadvantages......whats important that a system is in place at all......

peoples welfare is what matters......
that is if you can wait long enough to get one, or if you can even get one due to your budget. As a matter of fact, I want to hear you say this when ever you take most prescription drugs or use any of a number of the technology private health care in the US has made possible. What is more disturbing is that you pay an obscene amount of taxes for the horrible system you have. Great thing this national health care is. I will take my capitalist health care any day over your socialist kind any day. I would rather go to my doctor tomorrow and get treatment that might take months for you to get. I do not gamble with my health. You are forced to.
He's absolutely right. I'll have to assert that Social Healthcare is unnatural and way too innefficient and cumbersome for any person with a brain to aspire to. Truthfully, I'm of the assumption that Socialized healthcare has more corruption and scandals than capitalist Healthcare could ever hope to compete with. Also, Socialized healthcare has never proven to stabilize the cost of Healthcare. Healthcare costs actually increase two and a half times faster than in capitilist healthcare for obvious reasons. My sober opinion is capitalist health care is the natural best way to go but it must be protected from nutjob gold-diggers that have pulverized it. It can no longer accomodate the majority of citizens because of this which is luckily preventable and can be guarded against.
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All you have to do is look at the National Health Service in Britain. It has more and more money pumped into it every year yet services and drugs are being rationed with many people missing out on the life saving drugs they need. It is now being mooted that health insurance may be introduced as a way of subsidising the service.
Will this mean that the poor will get a second rate service, they say not as the basic care will still be given to all paid by national insurence contributions as it is now, however, those who pay private insurance will get "extras" such as choice of hospital, lower waiting times etc.
I think it is a step in the wrong direction. If you look at Switzerland they have a similar health service to Britain, however, they pay far more in the way of taxes etc to get a good, unbiased service. In Britain politicians and people are so afraid of the tax word the health service is kept hopelessly short of funds.
Maybe an insurance subsidised service is the only way to go but it is highly likely to produce a two tier service.
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I think what we need here is someone who really knows the healthcare industry through and through to enlighten us about the industry, the sytems and how they Really work. I am still of the opinion that socializing healthcare is quite obviously the wrong way to go but I have not the knowledge to really share an informed opinion like other issues I have dominated on the board. If anyone really understands the industry, please come forward and teach us because this is one subject I'm concearned with but at this point know little about.
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