Why does Homeopathy seem to irk skeptics the most?

**suede** · Oct 03 2011, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by AllEvil

In that case - No. Science has demonstrated time and time again that it doesn't work.

Links, please.

**Bowerbird** · Oct 03 2011, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by Makedde

Herbal remedies and those other drugs you think are just water do actually work. It depends on which ones you buy and you have to try a lot to see what works.

Regular drugs don't work for me. Two Nurofen do nothing for me. Half an hour later my pain returns, worse than before.
I thought drugs were meant to help?

Depends on what you are taking them for. And have you tried alternatives?? I know that up to 1/3 of people of European descent cannot metabolise codiene so it is like giving them water but Panadol does work for them.

**Bowerbird** · Oct 03 2011, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by suede

Links, please.

As I pointed out earlier - you prove it DOES work and you stand to win 10,000 pounds!!

**BleedingHeadKen** · Oct 03 2011, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by suede

How can a "snake oil" therapy system not only survive for over 200 years, but consistently keep getting more and more popular every year?

Religion has survived 10,000 years. Appealing to age or tradition or popularity is not any indication of efficacy.

**BleedingHeadKen** · Oct 03 2011, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by suede

Yes.

Such as? And don't say blood-letting.

Cupping. (10 char)

**Makedde** · Oct 03 2011, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by Bowerbird

Depends on what you are taking them for. And have you tried alternatives?? I know that up to 1/3 of people of European descent cannot metabolise codiene so it is like giving them water but Panadol does work for them.

Am completely immune to Panadol. No effect whatsoever. (I took a ton of it in high school and since then I can't even look at it without feeling sick) I tend to go to the chemist and get whatever is strongest, it works a couple times then stops. My body just gets used to it straight away and it stops working.

Panzer might think that its because I am telling myself they don't work - that isn't the case. For some people, regular drugs just don't work at all. That is why people try herbal drugs and other remedies. If it works for them, that is all that matters, right?

**Makedde** · Oct 03 2011, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by Panzerkampfwagen

You're not getting it. It doesn't work. It's just the belief in it working that is working. Sugar isn't a magical cancer cure just because some people in a trial got better when they were given a sugar pill.

So even if changing a kids diet helps their behavior, it doesn't matter because they still have ADHD and the only cure for a 2 year old, active child is to put them on drugs that turn them into a zombie?

I guess you are not aware of the over medicating in the US?

**Panzerkampfwagen** · Oct 03 2011, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by Makedde

Am completely immune to Panadol. No effect whatsoever. (I took a ton of it in high school and since then I can't even look at it without feeling sick) I tend to go to the chemist and get whatever is strongest, it works a couple times then stops. My body just gets used to it straight away and it stops working.

Panzer might think that its because I am telling myself they don't work - that isn't the case. For some people, regular drugs just don't work at all. That is why people try herbal drugs and other remedies. If it works for them, that is all that matters, right?

It's also possible that you are engaging in what is called selection bias. You know, like when people claim that it always rains when they wash their car but in reality it barely ever rains when they wash their car.

**Makedde** · Oct 03 2011, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by Panzerkampfwagen

It's also possible that you are engaging in what is called selection bias. You know, like when people claim that it always rains when they wash their car but in reality it barely ever rains when they wash their car.

See, now you are assuming something that isn't true. Take it for what it is.

Haven't you ever tried a pill and it hasn't worked? Some people get antibiotics and they don't work so have to get stronger drugs. Does that mean the first drug they tried doesn't work at all?

**Panzerkampfwagen** · Oct 03 2011, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by Makedde

See, now you are assuming something that isn't true. Take it for what it is.

Haven't you ever tried a pill and it hasn't worked? Some people get antibiotics and they don't work so have to get stronger drugs. Does that mean the first drug they tried doesn't work at all?

No, I said it's possible, not that it is what is happening. Don't be so defensive.