Looks like the Capitalists private medical care is killing their own babies, but watch them argue the point, in order to keep their high killing baby rate going instead of using socialist National Health Care where rates are lower. Yeah, they want us to believe that private health care and private meds are superior, but then this is the same group that said their were WMDs & Yellow Cake, etc. They are just a bunch of loonies being exposed as blowhards.

The way you judge medical care is by surviving birth rates & extended life rates. Private medical in the USA is failing among industrial nations. The CIA Fact Book is an easy place to compare the percentages for any nation.

https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications...ook/index.html

I have to throw these Righties a piece of meat - You still have the best killing machine in the World!! Course, with all the babies dying, you will need to hire troops from Germany and other soicalist countries.

U.S. Among Worst in Infant Mortality
AP
Posted: 2007-11-11 09:09:37
Filed Under: Health News
The rate at which infants die in the United States has dropped substantially over the past half-century, but broad disparities remain among racial groups, and the country stacks up poorly next to other industrialized nations.

In 2004, the most recent year for which statistics are available, roughly seven babies died for every 1,000 live births before reaching their first birthday, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says. That was down from about 26 in 1960.
http://tinyurl.com/3alb93

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Neo-natal care is actually very expensive, if your kid has any kind of "serious problem". (I know a little bit about this, for two reasons, one is, I have about ten years worth of career in the healthcare space, and two is, we just had a coupla kids - and thankfully they're healthy 'n' all - but my wife is a doctor, right? - well, "almost" a doctor, she's in her last year of med school right now - so you know, I spend a lot of time hanging' out at the hospital, kinda thing..... ) -

So, part of this equation, it seems to me, has to do with money.

'Cause you know, federal healthcare money has all but dried up.

Yeah, it's shocking, when you really look at it. Two years ago, Los Angeles County was getting "enough" money from the feds, to keep two teaching hospitals open (both of which catered mostly to the poor and indigent, meaning they were providing a lot of "free services" - and if you want to talk about "infant mortality", well.... guess which population demographic has the highest incidence of that? It's "the poor", right?) -

But now, today, both those hospitals are closed. So it's like, where do people go? 'Cause a neo-natal "problem", isn't exactly like other things, when you can just walk into ER and get treated "no questions asked", and they don't even really care whether you pay the bill or not.

Neo-natal stuff can involve more expense than even cancer, or stroke or heart attack, or long-term diabetes, or any of that stuff. And unfortunately, when we're talking "medical triage" (which is exactly what we're talking, under Hillary-care, I mean, that would be like, the very first thing we'd be talkin', right?) - then what that means, is that neo-natal care is going to be carefully examined as a cost-saving triage opportunity.

So, it seems to me, that your "observation" is correct, but your "logic" leaves something to be desired.

So, tell me again - how is Hillary-care going to make this situation better?

Well then "private" anything must be terrible... That's why the Soviet Union did so well when they eliminated private ownership of everything. Oh wait, they collapsed...

That's why the Soviet Leaders flew to other countries to have serious operations performed. They didn't trust their own government run healthcare system. They knew the West had better technology.

Market Forces Always Prevail Over "Managed" Care

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What do YOU care about dying babies??? As a Democrat you support killing thousands a year by ripping them out of their mother's womb.

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Clintonite after Clintonite. My question is, "So when does this so-called CHANGE start?"

And IF you think that socialized healthcare is better----you are dead wrong. Medicare is a perfect example of how socialized healthcare would run. There are gatekeepers and people telling you what treatment you can and cannot have; how many days you can stay in a hospital and all kinds of rules and regulations that take your own healthcare out of your own hands.

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Clintonite after Clintonite. My question is, "So when does this so-called CHANGE start?"

A rather effective point on the issue...

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It is only a state of mind, and you nailed it right - lack of money, money being given away to to the rich and corporations. What is our #1 priority if not American babies surviving birth?

Hard to say what Hillary will do, as the legislation will hammered out in Congress I assume. The difference I see is the mother and baby are not kept in the hospital long enough to insure a healthy baby - and that costs money socialists are willing to pay, in say Germany.

Apparently America has other things to do & bigger priorities than the babies. It's just a state of mind.

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That is rich!...what insurance co. doesn't do exactly that ...after you have paid your 5,000. deductible. What planet have you been living in ?

Hmmm, what is your point, and how does it relate to National Health Care and private health care that is killing off our American babies? That America is collapsed and can't take care of their own? Not sure what you mean.


Yep, I suppose when they went capitalist and the rich people had a choice to leave, the "rich" might have flown to foreign countries for treatment and prescriptions- Like Americans do today. And a lot of people don't trust the American private health care in America, and we are making it worse bringing in foriegn trained nurses on gov programs, and cutting staffs and cutting medications.

That tid bit is BS, and I gave you an American government reference to go look at. Private care sucks and it is proven a failure - even if America isn't collapsed - with millions going untreated - long waits - higher costs - higher drug costs, etc.

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Why is that a point on anything related to the subject matter? #1. Private Health care is ripping them out. #2. I don't support abortion. #3. Bush didn't mind ripping his son out a mother's room, Sen. Frist (R) doesn't mind benefitting from abortions, so why hypocritically attack Democrats for what you accept from Republicans and republican women with their legs wide open ib abortion clinics?? LMAO! Absurd & nothing to do with the subject of private Helath Care being a failure.

Stay on task please - your debate is off course and irrelevant.

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