Japan now claims "comfort women" not coerced during WWII - Page 4

exigent · #31 (**permalink**) 03-09-2007, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by skeptic-f";p=&quot

The key question about the comfort women is can you trust the Japanese to provide a truthful version of events. If you examine their version of events on more well-known events of the period where historical cross-checks from reliable sources are available, you can see that their version is probably crap (Duh2 take note!).

For example, the Rape of Nanking, a city in China where the Japanese army went on a week-long orgy of murder, rape and destruction was witnessed by numerous foreigners from several different countries, including Italy and Germany, whose accounts tally as to the behavior of Japan's soldiers.

Another example is the medical experimentation on chinese and western troops (including Americans) in Manchuria (shades of Dr Mengele!). The Japanese refuse to admit to that either, even though several officers were tried, sentenced and hanged for their crimes after the war.

In short, the Japanese are particularily bad at owning up to their historical mistakes. It is not surprising that they continue to try and preserve face over the comfort women issue, but only a fool would be taken in by their story.

Your opinion has already been addressed in this thread on page 1.

DuH2 · #32 (**permalink**) 03-09-2007, 03:10 PM

You guys are mixing two things into one.

1. Comfort Women where forced slaves.

2. Most whores in Asia where not forced.

There where more whores then comfort women.

Same thing occured in Europe.

Sadistic-Savior · #33 (**permalink**) 03-09-2007, 03:19 PM

What is the difference between a whore and a comfort woman?

DuH2 · #34 (**permalink**) 03-09-2007, 04:19 PM

One gets paid for her services the other is not ever.

Kinda like the brothels in death camps as opposed to the brothels in the town outside them.

WeShallNotBeSilent · #35 (**permalink**) 03-09-2007, 09:27 PM

answers a lot about current status of the neocon and the women vote

Tedminator · #36 (**permalink**) 03-13-2007, 04:05 AM

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Sex slaves on PM's Tokyo agenda
Dennis Shanahan, Tokyo
March 13, 2007

JOHN Howard has vowed to raise the "appalling" issue of women forced into prostitution for Japanese soldiers during World War II with his Japanese counterpart, Shinzo Abe, today. Mr Abe faces mounting pressure in Japan over the suggestion he has been "quibbling" over the issue.

The US Congress, backed by South Korea, is pushing for a further apology to women forced to become "comfort women" for Japanese soldiers. But the Japanese Prime Minister has sparked a fresh uproar by appearing to suggest he would not apologise even if US Congress demanded it.

Mr Abe has faced criticism from the US, South Korea and Australia for apparently playing down the fact women were forced into prostitution during the war and he has been accused of attempting to rewrite history.

In the Japanese parliament two weeks ago, Mr Abe seemed to deny that congressional testimony last week of former "comfort women" conclusively proved the military engaged in sexual slavery. Witnesses including Jan Ruff-O'Herne, 84, said they were captured, raped and made to service Japanese troops during World War II.

"There was no testimony that was based on any proof," Mr Abe said. Mrs Ruff-O'Herne, forced into sexual slavery by the Japanese in 1944 in Java, said last night that Mr Abe was committing political suicide by denying the full horror of his nation's wartime atrocities.

"It's been an outrage throughout Asia and America and the entire world and Mr Abe will have to take responsibility for the war crimes and give an apology on behalf of his nation - not just a personal apology," said Mrs Ruff-O'Herne, who migrated to Australia with her British-born husband after the war and now lives in Adelaide.

"They should take historical responsibility and teach the truth to younger generations."
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...79-601,00.html
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nipponese are

Sadistic-Savior · #37 (**permalink**) 03-13-2007, 08:42 AM

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answers a lot about current status of the neocon and the women vote

Michelle Malkin and Condoleeza Rice are two of my favorite neocons...both are women.

It serves our purposes for liberals to continue to clinging to their stereotypes. Thats how we got into power in the first place. Please keep it up.

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hehehe.. the Allied nations vs Japan again

And we will win this time just like we won last time. Resistance is futile.

Joker · #38 (**permalink**) 03-26-2007, 09:27 PM

Japanese apology 'has restored dignity'

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March 27, 2007 01:54am

WOMEN forced into sexual slavery by the Japanese military during World War II have been given back their dignity following an apology by the Japanese Prime Minister, an Australian "comfort woman" says.

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In Japan today, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said he was “apologising here and now as the prime minister”.

“As I frequently say, I feel sympathy for the people who underwent hardships and I apologise for the fact that they were placed in this situation at the time,” Mr Abe said.

For the record, Abe has a very low approval rating in Japan. Somewhere around 80% of Japanese disapprove of him so far, so it's not like all of Japan has been jumping on the denial bandwagon.

It may not be taught in their classrooms, but this kind of prostitution is pretty common knowledge in Japan. They do have newspapers and TV, and they do hear the complaints from the rest of Asia.

Joker · #39 (**permalink**) 03-28-2007, 01:20 PM

My curiousity aroused concerning the percentages of Japanese, Korean, and Chinese "comfort women," I went searching around for more objective sites on the subject and came across this interesting find:

Excerpt from Where are the Japanese comfort women?

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“After Japan’s defeat in the war, the US government ordered the Japanese government to create ‘comfort stations’ for the occupation army. If they hadn’t, the GIs would have attacked women from the general population in violation of the military code. (There probably aren’t ‘comfort stations’ in Iraq, so why are the American forces upholding the military code? Have Americans evolved?)

“At present, there is no objective evidence that the Japanese government and the Imperial Army and Navy systematically created ‘comfort stations’ and rounded up comfort women. Yet there is unimpeachable evidence that the US government ordered the Japanese government to create ‘comfort stations’.

“Strangely enough, despite the existence of clear ‘sexual slavery’ and ‘military comfort women’ in Japan, the Communist Party, the Social Democratic Party (former Socialists) and others do not blame the Americans for their inhumanity, nor do they submit resolutions censuring them. This is rather astonishing for the Communists and Social Democrats, who supposedly hate ‘American imperialism’.
　
“While the non-Japanese comfort women suffered serious harm, was the harm suffered by the Japanese women who fell prey to the American soldiers so trifling?

“I definitely want the leaders of the opposition party to submit legislation to the Diet denouncing the US for coercing the women of Japan to become ‘comfort women’”

I was a struggle to find any sites in English to support this claim, though I found some that supposedly support, only they are written in Japanese. There seems to be conflicting beliefs about whether or not Japanese women were coerced into prostitution by US occupation army or if our gov't simply looked the other way.

There was, however, this article:

American Military-Base Prostitution

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Since the dawn of humanity, society has been involved in constant battles and wars that reinforce the patriarchal nature of our world. Rarely, if ever, has a war been fought in which the soldiers have not used the native women of the country sexually, through rape, kidnapping, and slave brothels that follow armies.[1] Unfortunately, the United States -- a country that professes equality for all -- is one of the biggest perpetrators of this cult of military prostitution. This victimization of women has accompanied all American military invasions and has been condoned by the United States government, as well as the occupied nation's government. Furthermore, the use of Rest & Recreation sites, i.e., government-funded brothels, by the American GIs has been in full-fledge use since the Korean War. The rationale for this blatant mistreatment of women is that it creates a necessary sense of brotherhood and camaraderie among the soldiers.

Sadistic-Savior · #40 (**permalink**) 03-28-2007, 02:50 PM

The US does not have a history of attrocities the way that the nazis and Imperial Japan do. That is why the same standards do not apply to us on issues like this.

Japan also has a history of refusing to own up to war crimes.

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