Republicans and blacks

TeenRepublican · #1 (**permalink**) 06-29-2004, 12:03 AM

Republicans must tell the American people their past with the black commuity. If black people only knew the true history of the Democratic party they would never vote Democrat. This year is the 150th anniversary of the start of the Republican party...a party with the sole purpose of emancipating slaves with the views of the north during the Civil War. When slaves were freed, almost 100% voted Republican.

Today, most blacks support a Democrat candidate because they propagandanize blacks, this is proven. Republicans are given a bad rap and are conceived as rascist for no reason. The reason why blacks began voting Democratic is because in the south the freed slaves who voted Republican were hung by the white Democrats. Many do not know that three white Republicans started the NAACP to go against the Democratic hate for blacks and that the Ku Klux Klan was started by southern white Democrats. Some people still believe that Republicans were in the KKK because of the NRA (the NRA is mostly supported by Republicans) but this is not true, look at the facts.

Now, many black politicians vow to never vote Democratic until the Democratic party says its sorry for the atrocities it had represented.

If anybody needs the history of the Republican party, private message me with email and I will email it to you. Blacks, and whites alike, must understand the true history of parties and what they still represent today.

Neonimbo · #2 (**permalink**) 06-29-2004, 04:43 AM

Too bad the Democratic party and the Republican party are not populate by the same people they were back then, nor do they employ the same trains of thought. You can thanks the Republican party for being the intolerant racists these days. *cough* Trent Lott.

#3 (**permalink**) 07-02-2004, 01:28 AM

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This year is the 150th anniversary of the start of the Republican party...a party with the sole purpose of emancipating slaves with the views of the north during the Civil War.

Yes, that was their sole purpose... they held no other views on anything, and simply walked around in circles chanting "emancipate the slaves". Once the slaves were free, the Republicans all shot themselves because their party no longer had a purpose and it crumbled under it's own weight.

In the same light, the Democratic party was formed with the sole intent to enslave all black people. Every single person in the Democratic party set about collecting as many black people as they could, while furiously beating them. When the slaves were freed, the Democrats all shot themselves because their party no longer had a purpose and it crumbled under it's own weight.

Is it even worth delving further into your nonsense-laden post? Well, not really, but let's do it just for fun.

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When slaves were freed, almost 100% voted Republican.

Yep, I'll accept that at face value, no questions asked. It's not like you'd be biased in any kind of assessment... after all, it's not like your name on this board explicitly defines your party affiliation.

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Today, most blacks support a Democrat candidate because they propagandanize blacks, this is proven.

Yes, this is proven. All it takes for something to be proven is for you to say that it is proven. Then it becomes completely irrefutable, and is not subject to discussion.

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The reason why blacks began voting Democratic is because in the south the freed slaves who voted Republican were hung by the white Democrats.

Completely true as well. Not because it's in the historical record, but just because you say it's true.

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Some people still believe that Republicans were in the KKK because of the NRA (the NRA is mostly supported by Republicans) but this is not true, look at the facts.

Nope, there's never been a single Republican in the KKK. Believe me, I can vouch for this because I've asked EVERY SINGLE KKK MEMBER THAT EVER LIVED what their party affiliation was.

Well, I'd say that that's enough nonsense for one post, but I guess TR felt differently... hang on, cause here's the last dose of bs:

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Now, many black politicians vow to never vote Democratic until the Democratic party says its sorry for the atrocities it had represented.

Whew, I've gotta admit, that last one was a little bit harder to swallow. Glad to know it's true, though.

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If anybody needs the history of the Republican party, private message me with email and I will email it to you. Blacks, and whites alike, must understand the true history of parties and what they still represent today.

Yes, we all must understand the true (read: some alternate reality that you fabricated... although I've gotta admit it was fairly creative) history of parties and what they still represent today. Only... we don't need to know the history of the Democratic party, apparently, and we should be relying on you, the unofficial grand historian of the Republican party for their "true" history.

Congratulations on reaching a new low.

TeenRepublican · #4 (**permalink**) 07-02-2004, 12:26 PM

The Republican party was founded on the beliefs of people in the North during the Civil War!

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The Republican Party was born in the early 1850's by anti-slavery activists and individuals who believed that government should grant western lands to settlers free of charge. The first informal meeting of the party took place in Ripon, Wisconsin, a small town northwest of Milwaukee. The first official Republican meeting took place on July 6th, 1854 in Jackson, Michigan. The name "Republican" was chosen because it alluded to equality and reminded individuals of Thomas Jefferson's Democratic-Republican Party. At the Jackson convention, the new party adopted a platform and nominated candidates for office in Michigan.

In 1856, the Republicans became a national party when John C. Fremont was nominated for President under the slogan: "Free soil, free labor, free speech, free men, Fremont." Even though they were considered a "third party" because the Democrats and Whigs represented the two-party system at the time, Fremont received 33% of the vote. Four years later, Abraham Lincoln became the first Republican to win the White House.

The Civil War erupted in 1861 and lasted four grueling years. During the war, against the advice of his cabinet, Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation that freed the slaves. The Republicans of their day worked to pass the Thirteenth Amendment, which outlawed slavery, the Fourteenth, which guaranteed equal protection under the laws, and the Fifteenth, which helped secure voting rights for African-Americans.

The Republican Party also played a leading role in securing women the right to vote. In 1896, Republicans were the first major party to favor women's suffrage. When the 19th Amendment finally was added to the Constitution, 26 of 36 state legislatures that had voted to ratify it were under Republican control. The first woman elected to Congress was a Republican, Jeanette Rankin from Montana in 1917.

Presidents during most of the late nineteenth century and the early part of the twentieth century were Republicans. While the Democrats and Franklin Roosevelt tended to dominate American politics in the 1930's and 40's, for 28 of the forty years from 1952 through 1992, the White House was in Republican hands - under Presidents Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan and Bush. Under the last two, Reagan and Bush, the United States became the world's only superpower, winning the Cold War from the old Soviet Union and releasing millions from Communist oppression.

Behind all the elected officials and the candidates of any political party are thousands of hard-working staff and volunteers who raise money, lick the envelopes, and make the phone calls that every winning campaign must have. The national structure of our party starts with the Republican National Committee. Each state has its own Republican State Committee with a Chairman and staff. The Republican structure goes right down to the neighborhoods, where a Republican precinct captain every Election Day organizes Republican workers to get out the vote.

Most states ask voters when they register to express party preference. Voters don't have to do so, but registration lists let the parties know exactly which voters they want to be sure vote on Election Day. Just because voters register as a Republican, they don't need to vote that way - many voters split their tickets, voting for candidates in both parties. But the national party is made up of all registered Republicans in all 50 states. For the most part they are the voters in Republican Presidential primaries and caucuses. They are the heart and soul of the party. Republicans have a long and rich history with basic principles: Individuals, not government, can make the best decisions; all people are entitled to equal rights; and decisions are best made close to home. The symbol of the Republican Party is the elephant. During the mid term elections way back in 1874, Democrats tried to scare voters into thinking President Grant would seek to run for an unprecedented third term. Thomas Nast, a cartoonist for Harper's Weekly, depicted a Democratic jackass trying to scare a Republican elephant - and both symbols stuck. For a long time Republicans have been known as the "G.O.P." And party faithfuls thought it meant the "Grand Old Party." But apparently the original meaning (in 1875) was "gallant old party." And when automobiles were invented it also came to mean, "get out and push." That's still a pretty good slogan for Republicans who depend every campaign year on the hard work of hundreds of thousands of volunteers to get out and vote and push people to support the causes of the Republican Party.

Quote from GOP.com (official Republican National Committee website)

The Republican Party also led the way for women's rights and suffrage. Abolishing slavery. Free speech. Women's suffrage. In today's stereotypes, none of these sounds like a typical Republican issue, yet they are stances the Republican Party, in opposition to the Democratic Party, adopted early on.

Neonimbo · #5 (**permalink**) 07-03-2004, 03:19 PM

You are so full of crap. The social movements and civil rights movements were NOT LED BY REPUBLICANS you moron. They were led by liberal activists, such as the hippies (who you hate obviously), college professors, and common people. There were also people lobbying for socialist reforms and some communist ideas were thrown around. Yeah that really sounds like Republicans to me. Dont try and take credit where it is DEFINITELY not due.

"Abolishing slavery. Free speech." Thats one thing you got right. The GOP IS trying to abolish free speech. But the slavery bit is wrong.

And dont post a link from the GOP website and think that people are going to believe you. Brainwashed fool.

Godzman · #6 (**permalink**) 07-03-2004, 10:13 PM

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You are so full of crap. The social movements and civil rights movements were NOT LED BY REPUBLICANS you moron. They were led by liberal activists, such as the hippies (who you hate obviously), college professors, and common people. There were also people lobbying for socialist reforms and some communist ideas were thrown around. Yeah that really sounds like Republicans to me. Dont try and take credit where it is DEFINITELY not due.

"Abolishing slavery. Free speech." Thats one thing you got right. The GOP IS trying to abolish free speech. But the slavery bit is wrong.

And dont post a link from the GOP website and think that people are going to believe you. Brainwashed fool.

You don't seem to know history very well, The early republicans, were aboltionists, and moderates.

Lincoln was a moderate, who was against slavery.

My friend the democratic party stood for slavery, and most Blacks voted Republican up until FDR, because of his social reforms.

TeenRepublican · #7 (**permalink**) 07-04-2004, 11:27 AM

Thats right. The Republicans were the ones against slavery and for women's rights. Neonimbo, please provide proof of where you got your information that Republicans weren't the ones. You are one of the people that just sees the Republican party and says "nah, they didn't do that." The aticle that I posted even says that many don't believe it today because of the stereotypes against the Party that they are racist or woman-haters...totally untrue.

Neonimbo · #8 (**permalink**) 07-04-2004, 12:42 PM

You guys seem to think everything is because of Democrats or Republicans. Sorry but thats not how things work. You seem to be the ones that need to check up on your history. Especially since one of you is 16.

You also dont seem to understand that the parties then are VERY different from the parties now. The republicans are different from the republicans then, and the democrats are different from the democrats then. Do some homework instead of spouting out random crap that makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER!!!!

And when the hell did I EVER say I was a democrat? Im probably going to end up voting Nader this election, so dont try your stereotyping crap on me, it doesnt work. This world is not polarized. Not everything is black and white. Teen, you need to get some sense in your head.

mpotter · #9 (**permalink**) 07-19-2004, 09:50 AM

You can't make accusations like this. It reminds me of how black people keep reminding white people about what was done to them during slavery. My response is, I'm not racist, I would never do anything like that, and neither would anyone in my "CURRENT" family. What's in the past is in the past. We learn from it by simply observing it and by trying not to repeat it, but you can't simply say that because democrats at that time were doing something horrible, that "CURRENT" democrats still have the same mindset.

Rebellion · #10 (**permalink**) 07-19-2004, 10:41 AM

The parties may be different, but the fact remains that it was the Republican party that started the fight for civil rights. Starting with Eisenhower and the Republican congress which passed the first civil rights bill. You can argue about parties being different and all that, but speaking on a party basis Teen is correct.

Now in terms of parties being different, neo is spinning quite a bit as well. The democrat party is not solely a socially and fiscally liberal party. JFK was a social conservative and fiscal liberal. As were the governors of every major state in the south during the 60's. They were just more extreme than JFK. And it remains to this day with those like Strom Thurmond (until recently) and Robert Byrd. Conversely, the Republican party has some who are fiscally conservative and socially liberal. To argue that the demoracts of the 60's would be Republicans today is wholly inaccurate. If you want to make the discussion a Republican versus Democrat one than Teen is correct in his history. If you want to make it a liberal versus conservative one then that is different and would be up for debate.

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