Thread: Honest Abe...???

Just like I said...its not in the Constitution......The North(Abe) bullied the South into a war of Northern Aggression!650,000 men died because of Abe...The reason Abe wanted reconciliation was he needed the South to pay for the war,and do something with the Negroes..

You can repeat the same myths over and over again but it's not going to change anything. The Constitution and the Supreme Court have said there is no legal basis for secession.

Originally Posted by pwillie

Just like I said...its not in the Constitution......The North(Abe) bullied the South into a war of Northern Aggression!650,000 men died because of Abe...The reason Abe wanted reconciliation was he needed the South to pay for the war,and do something with the Negroes..

South Carolina voted to secede right after Lincoln was elected, he didn't have time to bully anyone, he put out conciliatory feelers immediately after elected, he did not want war. This being said, he would not shy away from war to save the Union. Federal outposts in many states were beleaguered and Virginia allowed rebel troops in their state hence the first battle of Manassas. It was only the states with slaves that seceeded. The Confederacy wanted a war and they got it, they were foolish to start one they could have won in court if Taney allowed cert, Taney openly admitted he supported their opinion of the Constitution. He was riding circuit when the war broke out. Arrogance cometh before a fall.

Originally Posted by clarkatticus

South Carolina voted to secede right after Lincoln was elected, he didn't have time to bully anyone, he put out conciliatory feelers immediately after elected, he did not want war. This being said, he would not shy away from war to save the Union. Federal outposts in many states were beleaguered and Virginia allowed rebel troops in their state hence the first battle of Manassas. It was only the states with slaves that seceeded. The Confederacy wanted a war and they got it, they were foolish to start one they could have won in court if Taney allowed cert, Taney openly admitted he supported their opinion of the Constitution. He was riding circuit when the war broke out. Arrogance cometh before a fall.

All part of the plan,Lincoln used the absence of the court.Lincoln knew that war and only war was the salvation of the North.The Northern Bankers conspired with Lincoln to make the South subserviant,and to Lincoln's credit,he succeeded. But didn't live to reap the glory..As all war mongers,they are left to their own fates.

The North won because God was on our side, not yours.

Was God on your side at birth?Must have been,because of what was given life birth...

We won - to the victors go the spoils.

Well, I was born in New York and raised in Queens and then we moved to New Jsy.

Not sure whtthat has to do with Honest Abe, but surely I eo need to get offa the narcs,. what5 with my broekn ankle and all.

Yours Truly,

ALady named ASHEN

Originally Posted by AshenLady

Well, I was born in New York and raised in Queens and then we moved to New Jsy.

Not sure whtthat has to do with Honest Abe, but surely I eo need to get offa the narcs,. what5 with my broekn ankle and all.

Yours Truly,

ALady named ASHEN

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Originally Posted by Mr_Truth

You can repeat the same myths over and over again but it's not going to change anything. The Constitution and the Supreme Court have said there is no legal basis for secession.

What was the basis for killing hundreds of thousands of people and wrecking various economies in order to prevent people from exercising their right of free association?

It seems that if the Constitution allows for that, perhaps it is not a document to be praised nor are it's agents and their opinions people to be held up as laudable or worthy of our respect and honor.