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Old 12-21-2007, 03:53 PM
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WASHINGTON (AP) - In a brief foray into politics, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Friday denounced comments by a leading Republican presidential candidate that the Bush administration's foreign policy is arrogant and unilateral.


"The idea that somehow this is a go-it-alone policy is just simply ludicrous," she said at a State Department news conference. "One would only have to be not observing the facts, let me say that, to say that this is now a go-it-alone foreign policy."

Her remarks came in response to a question about criticism from former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who has surged in the polls to become a front-runner in the upcoming Iowa caucuses for the GOP presidential nomination. Huckabee recently said the administration's foreign policy was characterized by a "bunker mentality."

Rice did not mention Huckabee by name in her response and at first declined to respond, saying dismissively: "Look, I don't comment on other people's comments. I don't have time, all right. I really don't have time to worry about this."

But she then launched into a vigorous defense of the administration's multilateral diplomatic efforts on Afghanistan, North Korea and Iran, and pointed to improving ties with traditional allies in Europe, some of which were strained by the Iraq war.

"We have right now probably the strongest trans-Atlantic relations ... I would say in a very long time," Rice said, noting in particular Britain, France and Germany.

"We're working with allies in Europe, Russia and China on Iran. The (NATO) alliance is mobilized together in Afghanistan," she said. "We had 50-plus countries at Annapolis to launch the peace process between Israelis and Palestinians. We're working together with allies in Lebanon.

"I can go on and on and on and on," Rice concluded. "And so, I would just say to people, look at the facts
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1


Its amazing how Bush doesn't work with the "world" when its all he ever does.
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Old 12-21-2007, 04:20 PM
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Default Dumb statement

I would really like to support Huckabee, but when he makes statements like this I am wary. Does anyone no if he has apologized or ammended this dumb statement. Clearly in the vigorous course of a campaign you are going to occassionaly blow it. How you handle it when you screw up does give some insight.
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Old 12-21-2007, 04:32 PM
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“I wrote most of the article, but I had help … There was probably eight or 10 people involved,” he said, explaining that it went through several re-writes.

Asked if he wrote the “bunker mentality” line, he said: “I certainly approved it … I don’t remember if that was mine but I take responsibility for it.”
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Huckabee later suggested Rice’s comments weren’t based on the entire article, saying, “Did she actually read the article or is she reacting as others have to the headlines and to the synopsis that has been printed?”
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Old 12-21-2007, 04:52 PM
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Default off the deep end more than going it alone. check this out

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Iran must "confess" to running a past nuclear weapons program or its claims of cooperating with a U.N. investigation will not be credible, the chief U.S. envoy to the U.N. atomic watchdog agency said Friday.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, meanwhile, said in Washington that if Iran wants U.N. sanctions lifted and avoid new ones, it must halt uranium enrichment and related activities that could make the ingredients for an atomic bomb.

If Iran complies, Rice said she was "prepared to meet my (Iranian) counterpart any place and anytime and anywhere, and we can talk about anything." But "as long as the Iranians are talking and practicing enrichment, we're not getting anywhere," she said.
why not ask the israelis to go first and share with the world where they are and where they have been as far as the development of nuclear weapons. after all, they have been hiding their program longer

this tactic is similar to that employed by the israelis, who insist that they get what they want as a pre-condition of participating in negotiations. bully tactics. we not only endorse the one-sided negotiations for israel, now condi is subscribing to the same approach

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Old 12-21-2007, 05:31 PM
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Default yeah, that's Bushie's mantra - that word "must"

Did you ever check out, how many times Bushie uses that word, "must"?

It's like, all over everything he says about other countries.

Iran "must".... Iraq must.... Heck, even our own freakin' allies "must".....

It boggles the mind......
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Old 12-21-2007, 05:35 PM
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this tactic is similar to that employed by the israelis, who insist that they get what they want as a pre-condition of participating in negotiations. bully tactics. we not only endorse the one-sided negotiations for israel, now condi is subscribing to the same approach
Yep. That's my take too - this whole idiotic Neo-Con thing, is a perverted version of an Israeli political model.

And, my take is also, that it would take us to the exact same place - you know, an island of "hard-headedness" buried in an enormous sea of hatred. Terrorists behind every door.

I don't think that's quite how I envision the future of the United States of America.

You?
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IOW justabubba admits every nation on earth is EVIL!

Every nation on earth insists on various pre-conditions to negotiate.

Foolish and baseless attack.


Nice display of the dangers of irrational Bush hatred by you two though.



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Yeah Glitch his comment was dumb..sounded like one of the canned lines form the Democrats.


His taking responsibility for it while kinda dumping it on aids isn't any smarter.

When you hear stuff like that you think Harry Reid or at best one of the Far Left kooks like nonsqtr/justabubba who lap this crap up.
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Israel and Iran in terms of nukes, remember a couple of things. Some of Israel's neighbors are still at war with here, only two peace treaties have been signed with her. Israelis cannot travel freely throughout the middle east, or even out of it except by air, as Israelis are not allowed even to pass through customs in most Arab countries .

Arab countries have been to war with her I don't know how many times or how many Arab armies. She was attacked by rockets from Saddam but did not retaliate. She averages about 8 rockets a day from Gaza strip into Sderot, with rockets regularly hitting a day care center.

When Israel attacked Iraq it was to destroy his nuclear program. She destroyed it and that was that. Of course, at that time everybody tut-tutted Israel about that. Imagine an atomic bomb in the hands of a lunatic with torture chambers who thought nothing about gassing a village full of "Iraqi citizens" to gain an advantage over his adversary, Iran.

Israel has never used an atomic weapon, nor has she ever threatened any state in the region with one. Iran on the other hand, has done so. Rafsanjani has threatened Israel thus:
  • If a day comes when the world of Islam is duly equipped with the arms Israel has in possession, the strategy of colonialism would face a stalemate because application of an atomic bomb would not leave any thing in Israel but the same thing would just produce damages in the Muslim world", Ayatollah Ali Akbar Hashemi-Rafsanjani told the crowd at the traditional Friday prayers in Tehran.

http://www.iran-press-service.com/ar...ats_141201.htm

for them it would be "just damages" but they would manage to wipe out the Israeli state....
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Default let me see if i understand what you are trying to say

it's ok for israel to have nukes because it has never used them and israel is disliked by its surrounding arab neighbors and that causes its invasion of the arab states to be found reasonable

it's not ok for iran to develop nukes because they might use them and because iran does not support the existance of the israeli regime

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Old 12-22-2007, 08:59 PM
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Default I think you need just a little reading comp course, bubba

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it's ok for israel to have nukes because it has never used them and israel is disliked by its surrounding arab neighbors and that causes its invasion of the arab states to be found reasonable

it's not ok for iran to develop nukes because they might use them and because iran does not support the existance of the israeli regime

concheat, quit chugging the kool aid
no you did not read my post and you are putting words in my mouth and misusing my name, justabubbafool.

You also included in your post a lie, as well, justafool.
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