Reaganomics ftw

There was not one greatest. Most presidents have great things that they have done and most have horrible things that they have done. Usually where one party is strong the other party is weak, and that's why partisan politics will never get things 100% accomplished. Usually they will bicker amongst each other and not solve any problems.

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He wasn't saying it was going to be exactly like the U.S. system that our founding father envisioned.

He was simply saying that because our "way of life" would be such a success that Europe would end up coming together as a "united states of europe" in order to compete with us. (not in those exact words, but that was the general gist of it)

And that is essentially what happened.


I have a question on this list....Why is Ronald Reagan winning lol??

I personally think that Reagan was a GREAT president. I would easily rank him in the top 10 of all time and probably closer to #5.

But are people just voting for him because he was the best of modern times? Or is it to (*)(*)(*)(*) off the Democrats?? lol.

Reagan was great....But he was no Washington or Lincoln. I would rank Roosevelt and Jefferson ahead of him as well.

So honestly I would rank him #5 of all time.

Thats not a knock on him, I actually think we have had some AWESOME presidents in our nations history. Alot more awful ones, but still I think some of the worlds greatest leaders of all time come from the United States of America.

Im not telling anyone else how to vote, im just trying to get a debate going and trying to get some info on why people voted Reagan ahead of some of these others.

Same thing goes for those who voted Clinton...I also was a big Clinton fan, but despite the great economy for maybe 5 years of his term what else did he do that truly seperated him as an all time great.

I would put Clinton in the top 20...maybe even top 15 based on his awesome Economy, but cant justify him being top 10.

Would love to hear some reasons though from those who voted for him.

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"The marvel of all history is the patience with which men and women submit to burdens unnecessarily laid upon them by their governments"

--George Washington

"Never spend your money before you have earned it."

--Thomas Jefferson

"One man with courage is a majority."

--Thomas Jefferson

I think I have to go with James Madison. Lincoln, Jefferson, and FDR a close 2nd, 3rd and 4th.

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/au...s_madison.html

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George Bush.

He destroyed those weapons of mass destruction, and he killed the terrorists. Not to mention and overwhelming victory for the U.S. in Iraq.

He also would be invading Iran if it weren't for those stupid Liberals, the terrorists need to be exterminated... liberals are working with the terrorists...



On a serious note, I like T. Roosevelt and Lincoln equally. None of them even come close with Tony Blair as my idol though. I appreciate a great speaker, which is silly of me.

Sounds like me with George Bush

Hah... Gross...

Theodore Roosevelt was sooo much better than Ronald Reagan. Roosevelt was the truest Republican there will ever be. And his teeth!

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"It is a hard matter, my fellow citizens, to argue with the belly, since it has no ears." - Marcus Porcius Cato

“I am an extreme moderate... I believe anyone not in favor of moderation should be castrated." - Benjamin Franklin, HBO's "John Adams"

Woodrow Wilson was the best President... up until 1918-1919 and his refusal to budge on the League of Nations

Polk was also pretty successful in accomplishing what he wanted to get done in office, if you want to count that as "greatness".

------------------- Ronald Reagan's Record "Firsts" --------------------

First to serve as Governor on a "conservative" platform and increase spending by 112%.
First Governor to increase personal income taxes by 60%, increase the cigarette tax by 200%, and increase state tax collections by 152%.
First to have a popularity rating of only 35% after his first two years in office.
First to have had a shotgun wedding.
First president to have been divorced.
First to increase spending by 80%--in only 8 years.
First to spend more in eight years than was spent in prior 50 years.
First to cut taxes by 60% for his rich pals.
First to have increased the national debt faster than growth of national income.
First to "almost": triple the national debt.
First to increase the national debt faster than growth of GDP.
First to double the deficit.
First to turn America into a debtor nation.
First to set a record for the largest one day percentage decline in the DOW in history. 10-19-87.
First to have "real" interest rates of 8% after averaging 1% over 35 years.
First to keep prime interest rates at 20%.
First to have home loan interest rates as high as 16%.
First to allow the savings and loan industry to be raided after signing a deregulatory bill and proclaiming "I think we have hit the jackpot". Come and get it the vaults are unguarded.
First to send an autographed Bible to a man he called "The Satan of Terrorists".
First to have an admiral plead the Fifth Amendment.
First to have a stealing, lying, gutless wife abusing Marine LT. Colonel plead the Fifth Amendment.
First to have a sitting cabinet member indicted.
First to have an Assistant Secretary of State indicted.
First to have an Asistant Secretary of Defense sent to prison.
First to have over 100 members of an administration charged with crimes.
First to have more members of his administration charged with crimes than the cumulative total of all other presidents in the twentieth century.
First to testify "under oath" 130 times that "I don't remember".
First to have an Admiral with a photographic memory testify 128 times " I don't remember".
First to repeatedly falsify his wife's age, as though anyone cared.
First to promote his religious faith and while never having an active membership in any church.
First to never use the term Jesus Christ in speeches.
First to have unemployment at 10.8% since great depression.
First to attack a small unprotected nation with 88,000 inhabitants and 10,000 bb guns, and then proclaim "America stands tall again". "we have whipped the Vietnam Syndrome. We have defeated communism".
#1-in farm foreclosures.
#1-In bank failures.
#1-In Savings and Loan failures.
#1-In percent increase in personal bankruptcies.
#1-In having servicemen killed during peacetime.
#1-In largest drop in popularity in one week.
#1-In being first to honor Nazi Storm Troopers by calling them" Innocent Victims".
First to lie - over and over- to reporters "I do not dye my hair; my barber uses a special shampoo."
First to have a wife who "forced" him to wear three suits in one day.
First to boast "Not bad for a dumb guy who worked only 20 hours per week".
First to have his wife sit nearby and whisper answers to questions.
First to have his press secretary remove him from the microphone when he could not answer questions. (When the reporter shouted out "answer my question", the president replied "my handlers won't let me speak").
First to have a Special Assistant say on national TV "sometimes you had to hit him on the head with a 2 x 4 to get his attention".
#1-In needing a staff person standby during press conferences to tell the press "what he really meant".
#1-In recorded misstatements.
#1-In never having a single press conference in which he did not make incorrect statements.
First to invite the Pope to visit the White House and "bring the wife and kids".
First to fall asleep while the Pope spoke.
First 20th Century president to have historians rate him below every president of the 20th except for Richard Nixon. 1994 Poll.
First to have been openly alienated from his children.
First to suggest his eldest son undergo psychiatric examination.
First to have been voted in British polls (twice) as the "most feared leader in the world" sic em Rambo.
First to have his official biographer state on national TV: 'After he was shot in 1981, he got slower and slower each year. His speech got slower. He deliberated more and he hesitated more when he spoke. He lost his physical quickness and would not make decisions on the spot. It was a very, very slow and steady mental and physical decline".
First president to have the Geriatrics Department of a major university study his behavior and conclude that after three years in office he had Alzheimer's.
First to have over $10,000,000 increase in wealth from serving for 8 years as president.

This is just a small sample of all the debunking I do of Ronnie at my http://LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/Reagan.html page.