Political Forum
     

Go Back   Political Forum > Political Issues > Human Rights


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2006, 06:09 AM
Gian55's Avatar
Gian55 Gian55 is offline
Commentator
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 1,584
Gian55 is on a distinguished road
Credits: 9,563
Default Pentagon memo: All detainees entitled to Geneva Conventions

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13813974/from/RS.1/

From the AP:

Quote:
The Bush administration said Tuesday that all detainees held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba and in all other U.S. military custody around the world are entitled to protections under the Geneva Conventions.
Quote:
White House spokesman Tony Snow said the policy, outlined in a new Defense Department memo, reflects the recent 5-3 Supreme Court decision blocking military tribunals set up by President Bush.
I guess this settles the debate over whether or not detainees are covered by the Conventions. I hope this memo sets clear standards for officers in charge of these facilities in hope that prisoner abuse won't happen again. I also see this as earning the president some points from foreign allies...
__________________
Proudly a "South Park Republican"
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Red Cross - Donate Today    Save the Rainforest
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2006, 07:12 AM
Hard-Driver's Avatar
Hard-Driver Hard-Driver is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: PA
Posts: 3,277
Hard-Driver is a jewel in the roughHard-Driver is a jewel in the roughHard-Driver is a jewel in the rough
Credits: 24,106
Default Gee

I wonder what would have happened if this had just been stated clearly all along?

Maybe we would not have had all the problems and loss of credibilty that is not going to be undone with this change, that somehow is not a change. The fact that this administration is claiming this is not a change demonstrates what a bunch of liars they really are.

(p.s. I wonder where the signing stipulation is that exempts the CIA and all the secret prisoners)


Hmmm. The term flip flopper comes to mind
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2006, 07:18 AM
nawbut nawbut is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Atlantic
Posts: 4,205
nawbut is on a distinguished road
Credits: 21,209
Default some of us...

...have been arguing this case all along, while others determinedly backed the Bush administration's position. Thankfully the Supreme Court have delivered legal 'clarification' to the administration - we were right, of course.
__________________
"A man's work is nothing but this slow trek to rediscover, through the detours of art, those two or three great and simple images in whose presence his heart first opened."
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2006, 07:35 AM
nonsqtr nonsqtr is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Burbank CA
Posts: 6,049
nonsqtr has disabled reputation
Credits: 59,049
Default exactly, and exactly

The Supreme Court has only confirmed what every right-thinking American has been feeling all along - which is that we are not a nation of criminals and torturers, and we don't want a President representing us that way.

And as far as Snow-Job's statement - well, that is his job, right? Spreading the White House disinformation in the "least unpalatable" manner? Peace with honor. Some things never change.....
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2006, 07:39 AM
stekim's Avatar
stekim stekim is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,583
vanuatu
stekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 57,211
Default .

Sanity prevails. Cheney must be pissed.
__________________
I wasn't born with enough middle fingers.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2006, 08:01 AM
raytri's Avatar
raytri raytri is online now
Site Moderator
Guru
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Minnesota
Age: 41
Posts: 17,628
usa us minnesota
raytri has a reputation beyond reputeraytri has a reputation beyond reputeraytri has a reputation beyond reputeraytri has a reputation beyond reputeraytri has a reputation beyond reputeraytri has a reputation beyond reputeraytri has a reputation beyond reputeraytri has a reputation beyond reputeraytri has a reputation beyond reputeraytri has a reputation beyond reputeraytri has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 110,834
Default dgdgdg

Sometimes I get the feeling Cheney thinks he's playing a game of Civ with the diplomacy options turned off, and he's running one of the government forms that doesn't have to worry about public opinion.

At first blush, this is excellent news. As HD says, we would have been miles ahead if we had gone this route in the first place instead of being forced to it, grudgingly. But at least we got here.
__________________
Man up.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2006, 09:59 AM
Hard-Driver's Avatar
Hard-Driver Hard-Driver is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: PA
Posts: 3,277
Hard-Driver is a jewel in the roughHard-Driver is a jewel in the roughHard-Driver is a jewel in the rough
Credits: 24,106
Default So

Quote:
Originally Posted by stekim";p=&quot View Post
Sanity prevails. Cheney must be pissed.
Exactly, Cheney is loosing out every day. Time has a whole article about the "end of cowboy diplomacy" I think the telling quote in that article is that when north Korea

Quote:
On the very day that Bush celebrated 60, North Korea's regime, already believed to possess material for a clutch of nuclear weapons, test-launched seven missiles, including one designed to reach the U.S. Even more surprising than the test (it failed less than two minutes after launch) was Bush's response to it. Long gone were the zero-tolerance warnings that peppered his speeches four years ago, when he made North Korea a charter member of the "axis of evil" club and declared at West Point that "the only path of safety is the path of action." Instead, Bush pledged to "make sure we work with our friends and allies ... to continue to send a unified message" to Pyongyang. In a press conference following the missile test, he referred to diplomacy half a dozen times.
So the Bush administration is finally realizing that there is merit to following international law. Unfortunately, this is FAR too late to undo the permanant damage to America. We are now not considered a leader in human rights. We are now not considered a leader for peace. We are now no longer even trusted.

The "Bush Doctrine" has failed. Iraq has failed. Our relations with allies have been damaged. And terrorism is more of a threat than ever. Our coffers are empty and thousands of our troops are dead. And now, witht he grinding wheels of justice taking time to catch up, the supreme court is getting into the act to say that the President is not a dictator and that he can not claim to be above the law.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Sponsored Links

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:33 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0
Template-Modifikationen durch TMS
vBCredits v1.3 ©2007 by Darkwaltz4
Advertisement System V2.1 By   Branden