Good point. In a fair court, Saddam Hussein and Ratko Mladic would stand better chances to be acquitted than G.W.Bush and T.Blair.

I don't believe any of Germany's or Japan's generals were severely punished for war crimes, though there was ample justification for both. At the Battle of the Bulge General Pfieffer of the 1st SS Panzer division slaughtered 150 captive American's in cold blood at Malmedy. I think he only served two years in a military prison. The Japanese military was notorious for taking no American prisoners in the Pacific, for forcing American prisoners to slave labor for the Japanese war effort, and for using white flags and truces as pretexts to inflict casualties on American troops. Again, the Japanese military was treated with utmost decency and respect after the war.

By contrast, America's military have conducted what amounts to an antiseptic war in Iraq, going to great extremes to protect civilian life, even though both Saddam Hussein and the insurgency both use the civilian population to hide and protect their forces from our men in uniform. The war criminals aren't on our side, in my opinion.

The only criminals we have on our side are the loons that distort casualty counts to support specious and vacuous accusations.

your fantacies about melemdy are wickedly hilarious. even u.s. gi's who escaped interment testified that they escaped after being captured. most after they entered the feild just kept on walking. the others behind them started to run, and thats when the germans opened fire. Pfifer wasnt even near the escape attempt. he was a good three miles away. your bigoted ideas of selfrightiousness are not going to win you any freinds but puppets.

Really. Maybe you should open a history book sometime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malmedy_massacre

So, let's check the score here. I have an objective source to prove I'm right. And you have....what? a foot in your mouth?

As a side note, on December 7th, 1941, Japan attacked American soil at Pearl Harbor, without provocation or warning, and without a declaration of war. Two thousand three hundred and thirty three Americans lost their lives on that day, and yet no Japanese politician or general has ever spent even a single hour of a single day in a cell for this war crime.

So much for victors unfairly punishing losers for war crimes.

The British, Americans and Canadians all murdered hundreds of thousands of Germans, during WWII. Hundreds of thousands of innocent French and German civilians were killed in the crossfire, or on bombing runs (no such thing as laser-guided bombs, back then...everything was "carpet bombing").

So, in light of that, were the Allies wrong for invading Normandy and Africa?
Should we have left Europe in the hands of the Third Reich?
Should Eisenhower and Monty been charged as war criminals?

Listen boog,

I see your point, but "murder" is too strong a word. Those American servicemen, of which my father was one, did not murder French, German, or Belgian civilians, and for you to suggest so, I find personally insulting. My father fought to eradicate facism from Western Europe. Doing so required that he used weapons that were, quite often, indiscriminate in whom they killed. That was not his fault, nor was it entirely the fault of the German command that decided to place this munitions factory here, and that weapons depot there. It was simply a fact of war.

Someone has to be the worlds policeman. If you want to try everyone as war criminals then you'll end up with the despots creating more havoc as the Western Leaders will back off on fixing the worlds problems.
It sounds like a good idea but will have opposite and tragic effects than would be intended.

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Oh, so you believe that when American planes carpet-bombed Berlin, they successfully avoided 100% of the civilians? Hundreds of thousands of pounds of incendiary bombs raining down on Berlin, at night, and every single one of them avoided civilians? Don't be so naive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties
Even Wikipedia estimates FORTY SEVEN MILLION civilian casualties.

And don't get all holier-than-thou. Just because you have a family member that served, doesn't alter history. By the way, my grandfather was a Screaming Eagle, so we're even in that department.

Your straw man argument is that I'm claiming no civilians were killed. But my actual objection was to your choice of the word "murder," which I find small-minded and petty. Murder implies a willful intention to kill civilians, and that, in itself, is a lie, as you have no proof what the intentions of any of the servicemen in World War II were, no matter how many links you throw up here. Collateral damage is an established and inevitable fact of war, whereas murder of civilians is a war crime.