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    Quote Originally Posted by SigTurner View Post
    Why does this sound like a Romney smear campaign?
    Well, it's anti-Mormon propaganda, regardless.
    Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by perdidochas View Post
    Well, it's anti-Mormon propaganda, regardless.
    To me, it seems like a convenient, pro-gay conspiracy theory so they can make themselves out to be the victims again. Sorry, but I'm not buying it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squall View Post
    This is something the mainstream media has refused to report enough on.

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    Here's one victim's story: http://www.reddit.com/r/troubledteen...nce_at_a_utah/

    Original Discussion on Facepunch: http://www.facepunch.com/threads/109...shing-facility

    Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_W...ms_and_Schools
    So how come PBS/NPR hasn't jumped all over this?
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    This sounds like BS to me.... Kidnapping is against the law and carries stiff penalties.


    Quote Originally Posted by Squall View Post
    This is something the mainstream media has refused to report enough on. A company in Utah named "Teen Escort Services" is regularly contracted to kidnap LGBT teenagers in the middle of the night, deport them to a concentration camp in a country that doesn't extradite to the US, and torture them. The goal of these concentration camps is to beat "the gay" out of them. It's legal because homophobic parents sign over legal documents allowing them to go to these camps to "cure" their homosexuality. They are not allowed to leave these camps and are regularly tortured, they are also banned from speaking about the outside world. According to some testimonies, the teenagers tried to rebel against their Nazi overseers, but were gunned down with rubber bullets.

    Please don't blame the entire United States for these crimes against humanity. In Utah (and Jamaica, which is where one of the concentration camps is located) teenagers lack the same basic human rights as adults and Utah is known for being predominantly Mormon. For those of you who don't know, Mormonism is a radical far right wing sect of Christianity that often does outrageous things and promotes incest, inbreeding, and now apparently the kidnapping & false imprisonment of minors. This is legal because the companies involved "donated" large sums of money to many politicians and the leader of one of the concentration camp operating companies, World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools, is a close personal friend of many politicians, including Mitt Romney.

    Here's one victim's story: http://www.reddit.com/r/troubledteen...nce_at_a_utah/

    Original Discussion on Facepunch: http://www.facepunch.com/threads/109...shing-facility

    Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_W...ms_and_Schools

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squall View Post
    This is something the mainstream media has refused to report enough on. A company in Utah named "Teen Escort Services" is regularly contracted to kidnap LGBT teenagers in the middle of the night, deport them to a concentration camp in a country that doesn't extradite to the US, and torture them. The goal of these concentration camps is to beat "the gay" out of them. It's legal because homophobic parents sign over legal documents allowing them to go to these camps to "cure" their homosexuality. They are not allowed to leave these camps and are regularly tortured, they are also banned from speaking about the outside world. According to some testimonies, the teenagers tried to rebel against their Nazi overseers, but were gunned down with rubber bullets.

    Please don't blame the entire United States for these crimes against humanity. In Utah (and Jamaica, which is where one of the concentration camps is located) teenagers lack the same basic human rights as adults and Utah is known for being predominantly Mormon. For those of you who don't know, Mormonism is a radical far right wing sect of Christianity that often does outrageous things and promotes incest, inbreeding, and now apparently the kidnapping & false imprisonment of minors. This is legal because the companies involved "donated" large sums of money to many politicians and the leader of one of the concentration camp operating companies, World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools, is a close personal friend of many politicians, including Mitt Romney.

    Here's one victim's story: http://www.reddit.com/r/troubledteen...nce_at_a_utah/

    Original Discussion on Facepunch: http://www.facepunch.com/threads/109...shing-facility

    Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_W...ms_and_Schools
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    Mormons, no offense to you religious people, are a bunch of morons that believe what one guy said one day in America that everyone should believe. That's it. If you believe in that crap, you are simply believing what your family taught you to believe when you were growing up. Now that you are an adult, and now that you can read this message board, try doing some research on faith, and religion, and making your own decision. Only reason you are Mormon is because mommy and daddy were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squall View Post
    This is something the mainstream media has refused to report enough on. A company in Utah named "Teen Escort Services" is regularly contracted to kidnap LGBT teenagers in the middle of the night, deport them to a concentration camp in a country that doesn't extradite to the US, and torture them. The goal of these concentration camps is to beat "the gay" out of them. It's legal because homophobic parents sign over legal documents allowing them to go to these camps to "cure" their homosexuality. They are not allowed to leave these camps and are regularly tortured, they are also banned from speaking about the outside world. According to some testimonies, the teenagers tried to rebel against their Nazi overseers, but were gunned down with rubber bullets.

    Please don't blame the entire United States for these crimes against humanity. In Utah (and Jamaica, which is where one of the concentration camps is located) teenagers lack the same basic human rights as adults and Utah is known for being predominantly Mormon. For those of you who don't know, Mormonism is a radical far right wing sect of Christianity that often does outrageous things and promotes incest, inbreeding, and now apparently the kidnapping & false imprisonment of minors. This is legal because the companies involved "donated" large sums of money to many politicians and the leader of one of the concentration camp operating companies, World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools, is a close personal friend of many politicians, including Mitt Romney.
    Oh God. Please let this be a lie, or an exaggeration. That is sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Margot View Post
    This sounds like BS to me.... Kidnapping is against the law and carries stiff penalties.
    It wouldn't be kidnapping if it's the kids parents who have the kid shipped off. Sick, sick, sick. I hope you're right that it's BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Automaton View Post
    Oh God. Please let this be a lie, or an exaggeration. That is sick.
    You need to read the rest of the story. It's not anti-gay, it's a troubled youth camp.
    Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
    --C. S. Lewis, God in the Dock, p. 292.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Margot View Post
    This sounds like BS to me.... Kidnapping is against the law and carries stiff penalties.
    From reading the girls story kidnapping is an exageration. The guys showed up, said her mom was sending her off to the same camp that her brother had been sent to, packed her bags, and took her through the airport.

    She just went along. I'm sure that, especially in the airport, she could have made a stink and gotten cops involved or whatever.

    So not kidnapping. Child abuse or child endangerment? Probably. From the wiki it sounds like the whole operation has folded under litigation, so this is mostly a historical discussion. Though I suppose something similar may have just popped up to fill the void.

    Quote Originally Posted by perdidochas View Post
    You need to read the rest of the story. It's not anti-gay, it's a troubled youth camp.
    Well, it was certainly a troubled youth camp.

    And the teen in telling her story certainly had some issues. She mentions drugs, but implies more.

    Regardless that doesn't mean they didn't also have an anti-gay mentality. Though I suppose the OP is being a bit dramatic with the thread title.

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