Thread: Is Racial Segregation really a human rights Violation?

Originally Posted by alexa

That being said I think sometimes people forget that equality in the States is a relatively new thing.

While discrimination under the law was eventually prohibited in the 1960's that did not eliminate discrimination against African-Americans in the United States and it continues to be widespread today. African-Americans have never achieved equality and, in fact, if all discrimination by individuals and enterprise ceased today it would take generations before actual equality could be reached.

Racist hate groups continue their relentless campaign of discrimination against African-Americans and many with "right-wing" political ideologies are highly opposed to any government efforts to address the inequalities created by invidious racial discrimination. For example, Affirmative Action is an attempt to mitigate the harm caused by racial discrimination that continues today but it is highly opposed by many "right-wing" conservatives.

The one sure way to completely end this discrimination would be to give Blacks their own nation in the Americas. The only reason this never happened after the end of slavery was that the wealthy whites owned all the land, and did not want to give any of it up to the Blacks. Many Black nationalists, such as Louis Farrakhan, have correctly surmised that the only way Blacks will ever be free of discrimination is to get their own nation.

“Racist hate groups continue their relentless campaign of discrimination against African-Americans and many with "right-wing" political ideologies are highly opposed to any government efforts to address the inequalities created by invidious racial discrimination. For example, Affirmative Action is an attempt to mitigate the harm caused by racial discrimination that continues today but it is highly opposed by many "right-wing" conservatives.” Shiva_TD

Let me try to understand this comment, Shiva. A government should preemptively discriminate against white people by taking their tax dollars and giving it to black people in order to offset the effects of potential racial discrimination? Once you start to think in this cyclic loop of nonsense, you will confuse yourself ad infinitum.

In case you haven’t noticed, I am all about equality. If the government wants to support a capitalist system with energy, food, healthcare and water quotas, fine. Donald Trump and Warren Buffet are just as entitled to these minimum “human rights” as the poorest person in the USA. What they do with them is their business. The only debate is how these “human rights” are paid for.

When I was a kid, I was told not to acknowledge that half of my family was black because I would also be discriminated against (keep in mind that I’m white but several aunts and uncles married blacks). Thus, racial discrimination is real. However, is it undeserved? When you have workers that sleep on the job, steal from the employer and cause industrial accidents due to negligence (and the disproportionate number are black), discrimination is a harsh word. When is one discriminating versus making a statistically wise and informed decision (an example for job employment prospects)?

Agree with Anders Hoveland. There is no solution other than the establishment of separate countries for the races unless the government stops using racism to counter racism.

Originally Posted by dudeman

A government should preemptively discriminate against white people by taking their tax dollars and giving it to black people in order to offset the effects of potential racial discrimination?

This is what I want to do, in a way. I guess you could say I have something in common with liberals.
This money should go to making a nation for Blacks in the Americas. Better for Blacks, better for whites.
Maybe not so good for wealthy whites, who have created a "wall of money" around their own insulated neighborhoods. But they have been screwing the middle class for years. Slavery could have never been allowed to happen if the 90% of lower middle class whites had not remained silent to the greed of the wealthy plantation owners.

I am in favor of reparations too: Every single Black that wants to start a new life in Africa deserves a big compensation payment and a free one-way plane ticket.
That and an official apology for tainting their gene pool with the blood of a white slave master who took advantage of a Black slave-woman. Black slave women were unfortunate that the KKK wasn't around sooner. A single plea for help and they would have given her abuser what he deserved and made 100% sure he would have never abused another slave ever again...

Originally Posted by Shiva_TD

Racist hate groups ... an attempt to mitigate the harm caused by racial discrimination

if a troop of klansmen could go back in time and get their hands on the money-grubbing evil masters of those wretched transatlantic slave ships...

"I am in favor of reparations too: Every single Black that wants to start a new life in Africa deserves a big compensation payment and a free one-way plane ticket." Anders

I have a problem with this also. Using this definition, any "indentured servant" in the USA is a slave and deserves compensation and a ticket to their European ancestry along with guaranteed citizenship if they so choose. Otherwise, again, it is all about blacks getting something for nothing. When does it end? Clearly, at the collapse of the USA dollar. However, I would like to see some rational minds come together to prevent it. A serious and academic study of slavery has proven that most black parents sold their kids for a bag of beans. This myth of European raving lunatics using chains and force is propagated to enhance sympathy.

Originally Posted by dudeman

A serious and academic study of slavery has proven that most black parents sold their kids for a bag of beans. This myth of European raving lunatics using chains and force is propagated to enhance sympathy.

A serious studyof history shows that you are talking through your trousers, like all white nationalists. Slaves were generally war captives forcibly resettled to pacify conquered areas and provide cheap farm labor, just like the Romans did.

Originally Posted by Anders Hoveland

The one sure way to completely end this discrimination would be to give Blacks their own nation in the Americas. The only reason this never happened after the end of slavery was that the wealthy whites owned all the land, and did not want to give any of it up to the Blacks. Many Black nationalists, such as Louis Farrakhan, have correctly surmised that the only way Blacks will ever be free of discrimination is to get their own nation.

Cow cookies. They helped build this nation. They deserve a piece of the action. No other country owes our black citizens anything.

And then there is the fact that most of us think you are just being a punk and a sociopath and need to learn to live in a world that does not revolve around your superstitions and insecurities.

Dumb idea 150 years ago, dumb idea now.

Originally Posted by leftysergeant

Cow cookies. They helped build this nation. They deserve a piece of the action. No other country owes our black citizens anything.

And then there is the fact that most of us think you are just being a punk and a sociopath and need to learn to live in a world that does not revolve around your superstitions and insecurities.

Dumb idea 150 years ago, dumb idea now.

The disproportionate welfare payments to blacks outweighs the total value of their slavery farm work by several orders of magnitude every year.

Truth is that most slaves were sold by black slavers to Europeans , often their kings.

Originally Posted by mikemikev

The disproportionate welfare payments to blacks outweighs the total value of their slavery farm work by several orders of magnitude every year.

really?....your source for this interesting revelation, and what about the numbers for the white population on welfare?