another US ally Dictator-murderer dies - Page 2

halla · #11 (**permalink**) 01-29-2008, 06:45 AM

i must make one more observation. one of the rewards for being a deka-megamurderer seems to be the privilage of joining the permanent membership of the great UN- security council.

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The Council is composed of five permanent members — China, France, Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States — and ten non-permanent members (with year of term's end):

http://www.un.org/sc/members.asp
with to notables in the impermanent membership: Belgium (200

Indonesia (200

now i am certain that when ashley is able to produce her "the super mega-deka-megamurderers", jewish israel, the great UN- will, of necessity adopt the necessary "PROTOCOLS OF THE ELDERS OF ISRAEL", to insure that that most evil of all countries to stain the planet earth along with those most evil of all peoples, the jews, exposed to the world by islam as "pigs and monkeys", have proper recognition of their Omnipotent omniscients!

ashleykennedy · #12 (**permalink**) 01-29-2008, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by halla

ashley:

but the way you talk ashley, israel ( read jews) should be up there in their own special catagory, the super mega-deka-megamurderers. i mean the way you talk, the nazis were innocents by comparison.

Now prove your assertions.

Find a posting to support your views.

And you're off topic.

ziggy · #13 (**permalink**) 01-29-2008, 07:40 AM

Note to self: Must use different thread titles in the future.

I'll just copy what I wrote earlier...

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Indonesia's former president Suharto, whose legacy of economic development was marred by graft and human rights abuses during his 32 years in power, died on Sunday, aged 86, after suffering multiple organ failure.

Suharto rose to power after he led the military in 1965 against what was officially called an attempted communist coup.

Up to 500,000 people were killed in an anti-communist purge in the months that followed.

Over the next three decades, Suharto's armed forces committed numerous human rights abuses, killing student activists, criminals, and opponents to the regime in the rebellious provinces of Aceh and Papua, as well as in East Timor, which Indonesia invaded in 1975.

http://www.reuters.com/article/asiaC...US120143167919

Backed by the United States government, President Haji Mohammad Suharto committed some of the worst atrocities known to mankind which would include the invasion (and genocide) in East Timor:

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The Indonesian invasion of East Timor -- began on December 7, 1975. With Australian encouragement and United States approval, Indonesian forces launched a massive air and sea invasion using almost entirely US manufactured weapons and equipment.

On the day before the invasion, US President Gerald Ford and Henry Kissinger met with Indonesian president Haji Mohammad Suharto. According to declassified documents released by the National Security Archive (NSA), in December of 2001, they gave a green light for the invasion. In response to Suharto saying "We want your understanding if it was deemed necessary to take rapid or drastic action [in East Timor]." Ford replied, "We will understand and not press you on the issue. We understand the problem and the intentions you have."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indones..._of_East_Timor

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Ben Kiernan has written in War, Genocide, and Resistance in East Timor, 1975–99: Comparative Reflections on Cambodia that "the crimes committed... in East Timor, with a toll of 150,000 in a population of 650,000, clearly meet a range of sociological definitions of genocide used by most scholars of the phenomenon, who see both political and ethnic groups as possible victims of genocide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_timor

You can read more about his infamous legacy here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suharto

ashleykennedy · #14 (**permalink**) 01-29-2008, 07:53 AM

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Suharto's human rights abuses should not be forgotten.

Tuesday January 29, 2008
The Guardian

I read with interest your article on the death of General Suharto, the former president of Indonesia (Daughter calls for forgiveness as ex-dictator Suharto dies, January 2

. Forgiveness is one thing, but we should not forget the number of human rights violations committed in his name.

Suharto's regime was responsible for the deaths of more than half a million political opponents, the effective censorship of the media and the banning of political dissent. It remains a deep regret to Amnesty International that very few people have ever been tried for their part in these crimes. Those responsible should be brought to justice and victims should receive due compensation.

The situation in Indonesia remains a concern. Peaceful demonstrators have been killed by security forces, discrimination remains widespread and individuals continue to be persecuted for expressing their desire for independence in the Indonesian regions of Moluku and Papua.
Amnesty International hopes that Indonesia can now deliver justice for the millions that suffered under Suharto, while breaking with the past and improving human rights for present and future generations.
Kate Allen
Director, Amnesty International UK

http://www.guardian.co.uk/indonesia/...248478,00.html

To forgive is divine, but that is for the victims to sort out, and to forget is shear stupidity.

stekim · #15 (**permalink**) 01-29-2008, 08:43 AM

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Backed by the United States government, President Haji Mohammad Suharto committed some of the worst atrocities known to mankind which would include the invasion (and genocide) in East Timor

If we backed him I can assure you it was only for the good of the world.

ziggy · #16 (**permalink**) 01-29-2008, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by stekim

If we backed him I can assure you it was only for the good of the world.

Genocide for the good of the world... That's a new one!

stekim · #17 (**permalink**) 01-29-2008, 08:52 AM

It must have been. Otherwise we wouldn't have backed him. If you believe some on this board anything we do is for the benefit of the world. They must not have realized it at the time, but we did them a favor.

EiregoSod · #18 (**permalink**) 01-29-2008, 10:17 AM

The scumbag genocidal maniacs on this forum weep.

EiregoSod · #19 (**permalink**) 01-29-2008, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Blade

Let's see - and you regret the US cooperation with stalin during WWII, who in the murder depatment makes suharto like the rankest of amateurs?

without STalin, you wouldn't have won WW2, I'm sure you knew that.

Truth-Bringer · #20 (**permalink**) 01-29-2008, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DuH2

Better ours then the Soviets.

Gosh change a few things along your guys lines and suddenly at least 75% of the globe that wasn't is on the Red team.

And then 75% of their economies would eventually collapse.

And it wouldn't matter anyway, since we'd have enough nukes to destroy all of them if they tried to attack us.

But, please, keep fearmongering. It's what you're good at.

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