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Old 03-16-2008, 12:40 AM
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Yeah but its teh same idea as any level of governance: you give up some control of your own life for some control over everyone elses. I can't help to feel its a good principal- its served us well so far. If the world is then generally good and reasonable, so will the outcomes be of such an assembly. Thats why the US started the League of Nations, and the UN. oops I slipped into copying form, sorry
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Americans generally oppose the UN for the same reasons they opposed joining the League of Nations. American inherently believe they are capable of making their own decisions... thank you very much... without the approval of other nations.
So does every nation in the world. Why the hell do Americans think they are exceptional and the world should allow them to interfere wherever they please? Because they have the biggest guns, huh? The law of the jungle it is then.
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Yeah but its teh same idea as any level of governance: you give up some control of your own life for some control over everyone elses. I can't help to feel its a good principal- its served us well so far. If the world is then generally good and reasonable, so will the outcomes be of such an assembly. Thats why the US started the League of Nations, and the UN. oops I slipped into copying form, sorry
Correction, Wilson proposed the League of Nations. The Senate did not ratify the treaty, therefore, the US never joined the League of Nations
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Correction, Wilson proposed the League of Nations. The Senate did not ratify the treaty, therefore, the US never joined the League of Nations
Correct.

It's interesting how USA likes to pass laws and not uphold them later.

If you don't like the law and think is has to be changed - then change it, do not break it (I am speaking of UN primarily). USA created the UN and its rules and the same USA is the biggest violator of these rules.
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Correct.

It's interesting how USA likes to pass laws and not uphold them later.

If you don't like the law and think is has to be changed - then change it, do not break it (I am speaking of UN primarily). USA created the UN and its rules and the same USA is the biggest violator of these rules.

The UN is meant to give all people the right for self-determination. President Wilson said: "It's the will of people who choose the fate of their country, not the will of power"!

You are an uneducated person.
Go to school or read some books! Perhaps, you're trying to learn the English language. Good.
At least you will speak our language.
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The UN is meant to give all people the right for self-determination.
Self determination is not secession. But who the hell am I talking to...

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Thank you. A taunt from a guy like you is a laud!

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At least you will speak our language.
Your language? Interesting. I speak English. Americans speak English too. Whose language is it?

If English is your native language, then you should be ashamed for speaking it so badly.
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Self determination is not secession. But who the hell am I talking to...

Thank you. A taunt from a guy like you is a laud!

Your language? Interesting. I speak English. Americans speak English too. Whose language is it?

If English is your native language, then you should be ashamed for speaking it so badly.
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UN doesn't do anything when Croatia expels 250,000 Serbs.

UN doesn't do anything when Albanians burn down 150 churches on TV, in front of NATO's nose in Kosovo.

UN doesn't do anything when USA starts attacking countries all over the world.

And yes, UN should be replaced by a more effective international organization. But I repeat INTERNATIONAL because US hegemony won't do any good anywhere.

UN resolution 1244 put an end to your Serbian butchers and their ethnic cleansing - so they can't be all bad !!!
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UN resolution 1244 put an end to your Serbian butchers and their ethnic cleansing - so they can't be all bad !!!
No, it puts end to your NATO butchers and confirms Kosovo to be Serbian province.
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No, it puts end to your NATO butchers and confirms Kosovo to be Serbian province.
Kosovo a Serbia province ??????????????



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