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Old 07-23-2008, 10:23 PM
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You see, if cost were the sole concern, we could make things more efficient by having an assembly line of nooses awaiting the convicted criminals right outside the courtroom. Expediting the sentence right then and there would cut down on the cost of appeals. We could even make a profit on the deal by putting the carcasses of the offenders throgh a wood chipper and selling it as dog food or mulch or something. Death penalty wins out on a cost-efficiency basis. Problem solved.
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Old 07-23-2008, 10:29 PM
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You see, if cost were the sole concern, we could make things more efficient by having an assembly line of nooses awaiting the convicted criminals right outside the courtroom. Expediting the sentence right then and there would cut down on the cost of appeals. We could even make a profit on the deal by putting the carcasses of the offenders throgh a wood chipper and selling it as dog food or mulch or something. Death penalty wins out on a cost-efficiency basis. Problem solved.
Whoever said that cost was the sole concern?

If you read my posts, you can see that I have two main concerns with the death penalty.

The first is the cost.

The second is how innocent people are sometimes executed.

The combination of these two problems is why I oppose the death penalty.
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You are against the DP, Foxy? I wasn't aware of that, I thought you supported it...
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You are against the DP, Foxy? I wasn't aware of that, I thought you supported it...
I've never seen him argue for it, only against equivalating it to abortion.
And he's right on that. Abortion and the death penalty are based on entirely different logic from each other.
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Old 07-24-2008, 10:17 AM
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You are against the DP, Foxy? I wasn't aware of that, I thought you supported it...
I oppose it for two core reasons.

One, it costs more for society without producing further benefit for society.

Two, because of human error and imperfect systems, innocent people are sometime put to death, which is reason enough to throw out the whole penalty.
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Who executes them doesn't matter. There are only a certain number of people who would take someone else's eye knowing that they would be punished in the same way. After someone has their eyes taken out, it's sort of hard to take them from another person. People who would take another person's eye, even if they only had one taken out, would have to repeat it to make the whole world blind. After they did it twice, they wouldn't be able to anymore.



That's pretty funny, because I am against the death penalty.

Here's why:

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lol, are you being dense on purpose with that gandhi thing?

your opposition to the death penalty is conditional then, correct? youre not really against it, youre just against mistakes and excessive spending.
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youre not really against it, youre just against mistakes and excessive spending.
There's no reason to have the death penalty if those two things can't be eliminated. And since I see no reason to have it, I want to see it taken out of our justice system. Therefore, I am against the death penalty, just for different reasons than you.
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our views are pretty much the same on this issue, actually. i just refer to the death penalty in general terms.
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In addition to supporting the death penalty, I also support a change to our crazy appeals process. In my world, convicted rapists and murderers would have five years or five appeals, whichever comes first. If you use up your five appeals and are still adjudged guilty, you get a short walk to the yard and a bullet in the head. Similarly, if five years passes and none of your appeals bring a change in judgment, BANG, you're dead.

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wow....Glinda...after seeing some of your other posts....im kinda surprised at this attitude.....BUT I LIKE IT ...especially if the individual is guilty without a doubt (like he is on film )violent offenders dont get any slack with me....
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I oppose it for two core reasons.

One, it costs more for society without producing further benefit for society.

Two, because of human error and imperfect systems, innocent people are sometime put to death, which is reason enough to throw out the whole penalty.
Exactly my reasons for opposing it.
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