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Old 12-16-2005, 07:42 PM
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50 was just a max estimate, I would say maybe 2 or 3 realistically if any. I should probably note that a serial killer, serial rapist or multi-murderer should be injected, otherwise life in jail is just fine.
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By out of sight, out of mind, I was seriously suggesting that when you stick guys in jail, the public is pleased enough and will just not care further about them. Obviously you must remember when the unreformed are coming out of prison, they should be watched carefully. But for everyone else, they could be getting raped or pissed on in jail for all I care, as long as I don't hear about them or see them for a long time.
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Supporters of the death penalty gain emotional satisfaction by its use. It acts as a kind of generalized revenge against the 'other.'
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50 was just a max estimate, I would say maybe 2 or 3 realistically if any. I should probably note that a serial killer, serial rapist or multi-murderer should be injected, otherwise life in jail is just fine.
So replace the old numbers with the new numbers. Same question.
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I can't find one instance where the government executed an innocent person. There are claims but not one shred of proof.

This is important to me because I sit on the fence of this issue. I am torn because I see the need to affirm life by taking the life of a murderer. On the other hand I have to wonder if the death penalty is a way to get revenge or a true form of atonement for the murderer. It must be good for both sides or it is good for none. Revenge, in my opinion, just the leaves the person wanting revenge, wanting. It will not bring a loved-one back.

So if anyone has a real site that can show innocent people given the death penalty and then carried out, I would like to look at it.

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People seem to be addicted to finding examples for points that can be made on morals and reason alone. Regardless of whether it "has" happened, the fact remains that it can.
Regardless of which side you pick, you do have to understand that it allows for the possiblity of such a problem. Life in prison for an innocent can be undone. Death penalty cannot.
Unless you believe the legal system is 100% infallible...
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execusion turned out to be un-affctive,sence murder still goes on!why not put them to life sentence? killing them now or killing them slowly in prison won't matter!
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killed by capital punishment. I should have known.

We can't live by what could happen. We must make decisions based on what has happened. I think if the US is going to use Capital Punishment it needs to be much swifter. 2 years tops.
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If you need it to happen before you see the moral implications, you don't see the moral implications. I for one do not have absolute faith in our government to never screw up.
Beyond what it does to the condemned, I am against capital punishment for what it does to us as a society and for the fact that it gives the State even more power over the very lives of people.
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I say that, in order to be allowed to live in civilized, you have to sign the social contract, which says that you agree to respect everybody else's natural rights to life, liberty, and property, in return for which everybody else and society agrees to respect your natural rights to life, liberty, and property, but that if you commit a crime, which is basically defined as a failure to respect other people's natural rights to life, liberty, and property, then society has the right to declare you in breach of the social contract and thereby take away your own natural rights to life, liberty, and property.
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