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Old 12-04-2007, 09:38 PM
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Jesus said ,"He who is without sin, cast the first stone," when they attempted to carry out the death sentence on someone guilty of a crime. We as sinners have no moral right, nor authority to convict fellow sinners to death. I don't know why other christians don't take this stance with me that God decides who should live or die.
Well, here is my argument against your argument/for death penalty. If Jesus was against the death penalty completely, then why did he choose to intervene on an adulterer. I believe that Jesus would have chose rape or murder if his point was to say that the death penalty was wrong.

Second, maybe you are not familiar with the Old Testament, but in Genesis 9: 6 it commands that humans kill murderers in God's Covenant with Noah.

Anticipating another argument, for those of you who say they can change, Although God does forgive, just because he forgives it does not mean no punishment exists.
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When it comes down to it, all the death penalty exists for is for a visceral pagan need for vengeance.
That is a ridiculous argument. Putting someone in jail for life is not a need for vengeance? (Especially when they are over 90 years old)

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Some people have no feelings like normal people. Just look at Saddam or Hitler or any of the other mad dictatorial leaders that we've seen in the history of the world.

bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

one. neither of those individuals were "mad". two. they have been demonstrated to be caring individuals... but, just like the rest of us, their concern for others had limits. it's just that their limits were a bit more severe than most. all those around hitler said he was friendly and kind and gentle... unless you happened to be an "enemy of the state".

yes, there are some sociopaths (i believe a consistent 4% of the population), but these men were not among them and to speculate on their mental state without proper training and personal diagnosis is dishonest.
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The death penalty should be used to rid the world of the most horrible murders. It just need strong legal system to make sure peopel are 100% guility.
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If you can prove beyond reasonable doubt that a person is a murderer and cannot prove that he/she had a valid reason for killing (self-defense, protection of family, accident, etc.) Then that person should be put to death. I do not enjoy the idea of the death penalty, but anyone who kills without good cause needs to be killed and made example of. Also, it should not take so much money to kill someone. slip a fast acting poison of some sort into their food if you want to be humane. Though personally I vote for a 9mm brain hemorrhage.
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is the death penalty supposed to be humane? i know it sounds cold, but an inhumane death penalty like a firing squad or electric chair is what makes criminals afraid to break the law. also- should the death penalty be humane when, say, a murderer rapes and kills dozens of people? they sure weren't humane to the people they killed!
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I can see where the anti-death penalty crowd is coming from; I just don't agree.

Humans have no right to decide a person's life or death. The death penalty is cruel and barbaric. "Vengeance is mine," sayeth the Lord.

All of these arguments sound reasonable on a calm, pleasant day, when you feel fine and everything is right with the world. They help us to feel noble, to think that we have somehow moved beyond the simplistic policy of "an eye for an eye."

But when a domestic terrorist blows up over 100 people, when a deranged serial killer rapes, murders, and dismembers a dozen teenage boys, or when a man travels across the country, brutally decapitating innocent young women along the way, these arguments begin to lose their resonance. No matter how much we hate to admit it, there are people in this world who simply need to be killed, not for vengeance, but for our own safety.

I sincerely believe that those who oppose the all uses of the death penalty are blind to the evil that exists in the world. Incarceration is not enough for these demonic souls. Yes, we must forgive them. Yes, we must wish their repentence. But we must also punish, and the punishment should match the crime.
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However, I am opposed to the death penalty simply because I feel that a large number of people being executed are innocent, or their involvement in the crime is indeterminate. I refuse to stand by a policy that will lead to innocent people being, yes, murdered.
This is exactly the reason why I am opposed to the death penalty.
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Putting someone in jail for life is not a need for vengeance? (Especially when they are over 90 years old)
What do you do with them when they reach that age exactly? They likely don't have family and can't work (If they can work, they might still be a threat if they have a life sentence)...
At that point may as well stay in jail till death.

I don't believe in life in prison for any but the most impossible-to-rehabilitate people.
I think most criminals, even murderers, should eventually be worked back into society.
Murderers actually have lower recivitism rates than most criminals... It's particular types of murderers- usually insane, that cannot ever be rehabilitated.
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Death penalty is inhuman and so is abortion after 9 weeks.

What saddens me is when I hear these religious people who cry out to abandon abortion while screaming "Let's fry this murderer"...

It should have not been politicized. People should have taken biological and psychological effects, before a decision like abortion can be taken.

I am okay with it for the first 9 weeks. After 9 weeks, you're killing a human being.
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