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Old 06-26-2009, 10:52 PM
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Old 07-03-2009, 10:59 AM
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The death penalty ensures that, once a murder has been committed, the marginal cost from committing additional murders effectively equals zero. It therefore generates perverse incentives, with single murderers more likely to become multiple murderers. However, the biggest problem is that it moves debate over the criminal justice system on morality 'to-and-fro' bothering. The discussion should be over the optimal punishment systems and how to minimise prison populations.
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I am totallly against the death penalty.

I am against it mainly because of what it does to us. Executing someone not only takes the life of that person, it also diminishes the humanity of the executors. If a person kills in anger that is one thing but to kill in a cold, calculated way is something quite different and that is how the state kills.

When a person is executed it isn't done in the heat of anger. It is done after a long, drawn out process that usually takes years and sometimes even decades. In my opinion this process and its ultimate conclusion coarsens us as a people. The person is killed but so is a part of our humanity.

If someone was to severly hurt or kill one of my loved ones I can picture myself killing that person. I would do it immediately in the anger of the moment. I cannot picture myself killing that person years later no matter how heinous the crime and that is exactly what the state does under the death penalty.
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If someone was to severly hurt or kill one of my loved ones I can picture myself killing that person. I would do it immediately in the anger of the moment.
One of the interesting aspects of the analysis into deterrence is that there is evidence that the death penalty also deters 'crimes of passion'. Now that might reflect problems in the methodology employed by the researchers involved (given they essentially adapt a specific approach adopted originally by Ehrlich). However, it could also suggest that the distinction between anger (or moment of insanity etc) and cold blooded rationality is largely illusionary
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Justice is not about deterrence or prison populations. It is about the victim. The death penalty is the appropriate justice in some cases.
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Justice is not about deterrence
That will merely ensure more victims. Harsh!
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That will merely ensure more victims. Harsh!
Not really, it ensures justice being served.
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Not really, it ensures justice being served.
A criminal justice system that doesn't have deterrence at its core will assuredly increase the number of victims. It would be stupidity
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A criminal justice system that doesn't have deterrence at its core will assuredly increase the number of victims. It would be stupidity
The justice should have the victims at its core. Deterrence can be a secondary consideration. But appropriate justice for the victim must come first.
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The state should not have the power to kill its citizens.
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