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Old 03-06-2008, 09:34 AM
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They want to have choice when it comes to doing what they want with their own bodies, but not when it comes to your choice to smoke. I smoke. Will it kill me? Maybe. Or maybe I'll get hit by a meteorite and all the cigs I smoke won't make one bit of difference on my life span.

I made this point in a global warming thread, so I might as well make the same point here: We are all doomed. We all are going to die. Let us live our lives as we choose and stop worrying so much about what day the grim reaper has you on his schedule.
I hope that you are using that philosophy so that you can live your life to its fullest, and not as a way to further a defeatest attitude that paralyzes decisions that would make you happy.
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Old 03-06-2008, 12:59 PM
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Alcoholism most certainly affects friends and family members of alcoholics.

Oh, and second hand smoke is not dangerous.
Alcohol does not have an effect on the health of others.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/ne...00/4214829.stm
http://www.irishhealth.com/?level=4&id=5763
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Oh great, more prohibition Like that works. I'm opposed to it. The theory of making tobacco illegal really boils down to one thing. Stupid people need to be protected from themselves.
true that, if people want to smoke ANYTHING let them die and purefy the gene pool
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Alcohol does not have an effect on the health of others.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/ne...00/4214829.stm
http://www.irishhealth.com/?level=4&id=5763
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/n...nd/3993427.stm

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Alcoholism affects all the people around the alcoholic. The relationships are very unhealthy often causing severe, long lasting damage.
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Why does the government need to get involved. cant people decide if they want to hurt themselves or not. Besides why would the American government make thier #1 tax money maker illeagle?
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Why does the government need to get involved. cant people decide if they want to hurt themselves or not. Besides why would the American government make thier #1 tax money maker illeagle?
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Alcoholism most certainly affects friends and family members of alcoholics.
Yes, alcoholism has its effect on more than just the consumer, and you're referring to psychological effects limited to friends and family, whereas the effects of second hand smoking effect others both psychologically and physically... and not limited to family & friends. Smoking allows for complete strangers to be put at risk. I'm not sure where you were going with the comment, but the comparison isn't equally hazardous.

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Oh, and second hand smoke is not dangerous.
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June 29 - There is no risk-free level of exposure to secondhand smoke, according to a new report issued by the U.S. Surgeon General. Nonsmokers exposed to secondhand smoke at home or work increase their risk of developing heart disease by 25 percent to 30 percent and lung cancer by 20 percent to 30 percent. Nearly half of all nonsmoking Americans are still regularly exposed to secondhand smoke.

Exposure to secondhand smoke also causes of sudden infant death syndrome, respiratory problems, ear infections, and asthma attacks in infants and children, according to the report.
With that said, I haven't a problem with smokers... as long as they're aware of the responsibility that comes with it. Your free to do with your body as you see fit, however... if your choices impact anothers involuntarily, then there is a problem, and reason for debate. There's no reason an innocent child should have to go through life wheezing because his/her mother made an idiotic choice.

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I have lived my entire life being surrounded by people that smoke. However, I don't believe that smoking is acceptable. Smoking is harmful in so many ways that it is surprising that it isn't illegal already. I mean, SMOKING KILLS! In addition, cigarettes can cause cancer in the mouth and/or lungs, gum disease, and much more, and yet, they are not illegal. WHY? Cigarettes contain addicting ingredients just like other drugs, yet they aren't outlawed like they are. WHY? They are even considered a linking drug to other more dangerous drugs. I just don't see how something like smoking can be accepted in a society that is very against the use of other drugs. Don't try to tell me that they aren't as dangerous. My own grandfather died because he smoked, and yet, this is acceptable to society.
Yes then more people would smoke, didnt you learn anything from prohibition.

Ps I smoke and I am from the UK a packet of twenty Marlboro cost about $11 that was at the conversion rate of 2$ to the £ the rate.

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No. My body, my choice. This is why there shouldn't be many public places- disputes like this. If you plead you need rehab, your problem. You got yourself there, I shouldn't have to pay embedded taxes to get you out.

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No. My body, my choice. This is why there shouldn't be many public places- disputes like this. If you plead you need rehab, your problem. You got yourself there, I shouldn't have to pay embedded taxes to get you out.
So you believe you have the right to smoke? I am a little confused about your stance, is all.
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