It would be much easier if we didn't have to pass laws and enforce your choices on the rest of us. It would be much easier for you to choose wisely.

This is you telling me what to do with my body.

If your biggest concern is protecting the workers you are barking up the wrong tree. Surely our time would be much better spent securing job sites that are much more dangerous. http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/...tra/P63405.asp Bartenders and waitresses aren't on that list and I'd imagine they aren't even in the top 100. As somebody said before. Second hand smoke has never been listed as a reason of death. Meanwhile the food served at restaurants has often killed people.
Again, you do not have a right to my jobs nor a right to visit my property. I on the other hand have the right to refuse your job application and kick people off my property!

That is false and nothing but a generalization. Some people do not NEED a job. There is nothing mentioned about jobs in the bill of rights. This is why I'm am not REQUIRED to hire you. Hiring someone that can't stand smoke in a bar is almost as stupid as hiring a male stripper at a gentleman's club. Nobody's forcing you to work at smoky places. You have other options. You just do not want to choose for yourself and would rather force your will on the rest of us.

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I do choose not to smoke which I think is a wise choice and your individual rights dont extend to forcing your smoke onto me...which you ARE doing when you smoke in public venues.

Do what you want with your body...but the choices you make on what to do to your body must not be done to mine against my will. Again the act of smoking means that the people in your immediate vicinity will be breathing in your smoke and they cant choose to "not breath".

The burden of your choices and vices are on your shoulders.

If the food has killed people that would mean they werent in compliance with regulations and that is not only a civil suit..that can be considered a criminal issue as well.

They dont list smoking as cause of death either....they also dont list over eating as cause of death or bad eating habits combined with lack of exercize as the cause of death...they say stuff like...Lung Cancer, Diabetes, Heart attack, Stroke etc.

There are regulations and guidelines you must follow if you choose to engage in a commercial business and you cannot expect the same lack of regulation that you would have on your private home to extend to your commercial business.

If you dont like that, then you have the option to not engage in such ownership and responsiblity.


The absolute vast majority of people need jobs...you have some Paris Hiltons running around but over 90% of the population need to work to keep shelter, food and clothing needs fullfilled.

Its just fiction to pretend there is sooo much freedom of choice and not recognize the nature of those needing employment and how easy it is to take advantage of them because without those regulations, laws, guidelines and protections they are extremely vulnerable and will be abused and have no other options.

Take responsibility for your own habit and be responsible with your own smoke and dont force it upon others who have to share a public world with you and choose not to smoke and damage their lungs. They shouldnt have to suffer to accomodate your addiction and choice.

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"You can't go around building a better world for people. Only people
can build a better world for people. Otherwise it's just a cage."
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OR! I can fire you and find someone else that isn't going to (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) and moan about my the choices I make on MY property.

I think the better option is just not to hire people who think they have the right to tell me what I can and can't do on property that I own and pay for.

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Ignoring the differences between commercial property and private residence type property isnt going to make it go away.

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"You can't go around building a better world for people. Only people
can build a better world for people. Otherwise it's just a cage."
-- (Terry Pratchett, Witches Abroad)

Pretending like your not infringing upon the rights of private property owners also doesn't mean your aren't.

You believe your right not to smell smoke is more important than the rights of the guy who pays for the property that your standing on, gotcha.

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Because I hang out in bars and therefore I can say that the majority of bartenders and bartendresses do in fact smoke.

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Theodore Lamar Heiks
BA, History/Political Science, Western State College of Colorado, 1984
MBA, Entrepreneurship/Marketing, City University of Seattle, 1993

In other words, the nanny state is responsible for protecting people from engaging in adult activities they would like to engage in.

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Theodore Lamar Heiks
BA, History/Political Science, Western State College of Colorado, 1984
MBA, Entrepreneurship/Marketing, City University of Seattle, 1993

Bah. I don't think any substance you wish to use should be illegal. Addiction, whether its cannibis or watching too much television, is a social problem, not a criminal one.

No, the people are THE STATE. Its been due to a push from the public to create laws and protections for ourselves and our societies.

You can engage in smoking....you just cant do so in a way that interferes with the health and rights of others. Your rights stop at the point that they begin to infringe upon anothers rights.

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"You can't go around building a better world for people. Only people
can build a better world for people. Otherwise it's just a cage."
-- (Terry Pratchett, Witches Abroad)

Smokers and nonsmokers can go to restuarants they just can't smoke.
Well what about a 300 pound slob going to a restuarant should they be limited to only eating salads, or the cell phones you can come to the restuarant but you can't use your cell phone in the resturant.

Why not have a resturant that only hires smokers and only caters to smokers.
Kinda like nonsmoking resturants, nonsmokers would be welcome but they would not have to smoke.

I mind my own business other people healthy or otherwise should mind their own.
I force nobody to think as I do or have the same habits as I do I would expect no more nor no less from other people.