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Which is why they should be made to pay their medical expenses. They still have the right to smoke, but non smokers will not have to pay for their medical treatment through taxes.
I agree!

Smokers need to pay their own ...
HIV infected butt packers need to pay their own ...
Alcoholics need to pay their own ...
prostitute's need to pay their own ...
junkie's need to pay their own ...
as the rest of the world needs to pay their own ...

WHAT A NOVEL CONCEPT!

Everyone RESPONSIBLE for themselves!

.... but the Liberal's think the government should pay for the error's of people ...

Everyone should be treated EQUALLY!
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I only believe those people who intentionally damage their bodies should pay for their medical treatment - people who get breast cancer, or kids with cancer shouldn't have to pay, because their lifestyle choices didn't lead to them becoming ill.

Those people who smoke, drink, are obese etc are higher risk patients. They are likely to take longer recovering from surgery than a non smoker/drinker and someone who is a healthy weight. There is more risk of the surgery going wrong etc - insurance premiums for these people should be higher, to cover the risk.
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I only believe those people who intentionally damage their bodies should pay for their medical treatment - people who get breast cancer, or kids with cancer shouldn't have to pay, because their lifestyle choices didn't lead to them becoming ill.

Those people who smoke, drink, are obese etc are higher risk patients. They are likely to take longer recovering from surgery than a non smoker/drinker and someone who is a healthy weight. There is more risk of the surgery going wrong etc - insurance premiums for these people should be higher, to cover the risk.
And in my opinion everyone should have to pay for their own health insurance. That way no one is being treated special. If you could, can you please go back and address some of the earlier points others made against your stance on smoking?
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And in my opinion everyone should have to pay for their own health insurance. That way no one is being treated special. If you could, can you please go back and address some of the earlier points others made against your stance on smoking?
Which were? The ones where you all think you have the right to smoke wherever you please?
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Which were? The ones where you all think you have the right to smoke wherever you please?
I would like to know WHY so many people think
the government should tell a private business owner who they can serve in their own business ... when are they going to demand that
  • a Chevy mechanic service Ford?
  • a steakhouse can't take care of beer drinkers

Why do NON SMOKERS think they have a right to go into a Smokers establishment without respecting the house rules?

Smokers respect nonsmoker establishments .... or don't go in ...

Why do NON SMOKERS think they are MORE important - where the law has to be fixed so they can have it JUST their way?

.............. JUST US
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Someone put it well in a letter to the editor the other week: 'The smokers have had it their way for years, now it's our turn!'

Sounds fair to me. You've had your way for years, now it's time for non smokers to have it their way.
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Smokers should be more considerate?

they aren't trying to smoke in NON SMOKING restaurants ...

you are trying to STOP them from having their own SMOKING RESTAURANTS
Not exactly a question, but you get the point.
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Someone put it well in a letter to the editor the other week: 'The smokers have had it their way for years, now it's our turn!'

Sounds fair to me. You've had your way for years, now it's time for non smokers to have it their way.
Perhaps you should send smokers too ANOTHER PLANET ... so you can live in a place like Camelot ...

got to LOVE "Just us"!

If you don't LIKE going into a smokers business - START YOUR OWN BUSINESS ...

why don't you?

why make others who INVESTED their own money into a business abide by YOUR RULES ...

what makes YOU MORE important than an owner of a private business?
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Private owners were excempt from these new anti amoking laws - it's those business which are franchises that were made to ban smoking.

Just clearing that up, because I think I might have forgotten to.
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