Cigarettes Should be made Illegal - Page 90

IsGuavaADonut? · #**891** (**permalink**) 07-07-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Makedde

Many other things can reduce stress too - and they don't pose a risk to your health.

I wasn't saying it was the best way, but he asked what benefit I got out of it. That is one benefit.

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Originally Posted by Daniel517

How do you enjoy breathing in smoke? And there are lots of other ways to reduce stress. Do you want to die when your 50 from lung cancer? I just dont understand the rationale for smoking. Smoking is so harmful for your body it isnt even funny. I look down upon smokers because they are just so freaking dumb. I actually feel bad for you IsGuavaADonut because you dont even realize what your doing. I mean have you read the warning labels on the packs?

Well, some people have been known to cough their first time and really hate the way it feels and tastes, but no so for me. I enjoy it and always have since my first cigarette. Tobacco smoke is rather mild and causes the smoker to breathe deeply which is relaxing and pleasant provided they are not bothered by the taste or sensation.

Don't feel bad for me. I know exactly what I'm doing. I know that it is harmful to my body, but I enjoy it. If you look down on me, I hope you look down on people who eat fast food. It is incredibly harmful, but people enjoy the taste. That's life... some things we enjoy doing are harmful or dangerous. I don't think anything that is harmful or dangerous to ONLY the person participating in the activity by conscious choice should be illegal.

I know more than most people how bad smoking is for you. I've studied it in depth and have had a close relative die in part from the effects of it. I know it's not good for me. But I like it, and I don't think hurting yourself should be a crime.

It's not that I don't understand where the people who want it to be illegal are coming from either. I know they think they are looking out for me. But I'm an adult and I resent that they think they are allowed to determine what is in my best interests.

Daniel517 · #**892** (**permalink**) 07-07-2008, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by IsGuavaADonut?

I wasn't saying it was the best way, but he asked what benefit I got out of it. That is one benefit.

Well, some people have been known to cough their first time and really hate the way it feels and tastes, but no so for me. I enjoy it and always have since my first cigarette. Tobacco smoke is rather mild and causes the smoker to breathe deeply which is relaxing and pleasant provided they are not bothered by the taste or sensation.

Don't feel bad for me. I know exactly what I'm doing. I know that it is harmful to my body, but I enjoy it. If you look down on me, I hope you look down on people who eat fast food. It is incredibly harmful, but people enjoy the taste. That's life... some things we enjoy doing are harmful or dangerous. I don't think anything that is harmful or dangerous to ONLY the person participating in the activity by conscious choice should be illegal.

I know more than most people how bad smoking is for you. I've studied it in depth and have had a close relative die in part from the effects of it. I know it's not good for me. But I like it, and I don't think hurting yourself should be a crime.

It's not that I don't understand where the people who want it to be illegal are coming from either. I know they think they are looking out for me. But I'm an adult and I resent that they think they are allowed to determine what is in my best interests.

Hahahahah that is a hilarious response. If you know exactly what it does to you yet you dont stop, then you must be really dumb. You cannot compare smoking to fast food. You have to eat fast food at least every other day for it to be harmful. Smoking is bad if you smoke it once.Fast food is not addictive in nature either. Nicotine is. I could care less if you smoke but i dont want you smoking it outside where i can breathe in those toxic chemicals. When people smoke they arent hurting just themselves. Everyone around them suffers. And if you dont consider that when smoking then you are selfish. I cant tell you how many times i walk around in a day and have to breathe in cigarette smoke. If i never have to breathe cigaretee smoke then i am fine with it being legal. But it puts other people's lives at risk. Smoking does not just affect yourself. ill repeat that:Smoking does not just affect yourself.

"Tobacco smoke is rather mild and causes the smoker to breathe deeply which is relaxing and pleasant provided they are not bothered by the taste or sensation."

Now that is a stupid comment. I can breathe deeply on my own. Take a deep breath, hold it for a few seconds, and release. Done deal. The reason you cant breathe deeply on your own is because you smoke.

"I know that it is harmful to my body, but I enjoy it."

So if cutting my wrists is pleasureful then should i keep doing it?

Makedde · #**893** (**permalink**) 07-07-2008, 05:13 PM

Guava, you say you enjoy smoking, and I assume this is why you won't stop - because you like it too much.

But what will happen when you become ill? If you become seriously ill from a smoking related illness, do you think you have the right to expect doctors to help cure you, even though you knew what the consequences of your actions would be?

Daniel517 · #**894** (**permalink**) 07-07-2008, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Makedde

Guava, you say you enjoy smoking, and I assume this is why you won't stop - because you like it too much.

But what will happen when you become ill? If you become seriously ill from a smoking related illness, do you think you have the right to expect doctors to help cure you, even though you knew what the consequences of your actions would be?

Ya what if you need a transplant of some sort. You think that your gonna be on the list? The doctors wont even bother writing your name down.

Makedde · #**895** (**permalink**) 07-07-2008, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel517

Ya what if you need a transplant of some sort. You think that your gonna be on the list? The doctors wont even bother writing your name down.

My uncle needed a double lung transplant, and he had to quit for a whole twelve months before he would be considered for surgery. He quit, had the operation, and he's never felt better - better yet, he hasn't looked at a cigarrette since.

SpankyTheWhale · #**896** (**permalink**) 07-07-2008, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel517

"I know that it is harmful to my body, but I enjoy it."

So if cutting my wrists is pleasureful then should i keep doing it?

Cutting your wrists (done the right way) could result in immediate death. Smoking requires 40+ years to achieve the same result.

L337SIMBA · #**897** (**permalink**) 07-07-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Makedde

You know what is even more stupid? Those smokers who sit outside the hospital, in their wheelchairs and hospital gowns, smoking through the hole in their throats where their trach tube is.

And your point is? They're smoking out of their own volition and they know what can happen if they smoke. This shouldn't shock anyone.

Now brb. I will ish copy and paste an essay.

Makedde · #**898** (**permalink**) 07-07-2008, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SpankyTheWhale

Cutting your wrists (done the right way) could result in immediate death. Smoking requires 40+ years to achieve the same result.

What if someone cuts their wrists in a way so as not to cause death, just to harm themselves?

Makedde · #**899** (**permalink**) 07-07-2008, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by L337SIMBA

And your point is? They're smoking out of their own volition and they know what can happen if they smoke. This shouldn't shock anyone.

I've asked this before but for you, I will ask it again: Should smokers have the right to medical treatment even though they know the damage they cause to their bodies?

L337SIMBA · #**900** (**permalink**) 07-07-2008, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Makedde

I've asked this before but for you, I will ask it again: Should smokers have the right to medical treatment even though they know the damage they cause to their bodies?

Don't mind if I do Mak, but I'm going to answer this two ways: from a Canadian point of view and from mine.

1) Universal health care bls.

2) Have you seen SuperSize me? We all know what eating an unhealthy diet can lead to. Just like smoking. Bad...sometimes lethal side effects. Should we exempt people who eat at McDonals from health coverage just because they ate a little too much at McD's? Should we not allow mountain bikers from obtaining medical attention just because they willingly and knowingly went through a trail that got them hurt?

So, yes. They do have the right to medical treatment.

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