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View Poll Results: Should a baby of an illegal migrant receive automatically US citizenship
No, thats history and should be abolished 21 61.76%
Yes, this is an american tradition that Im proud of 13 38.24%
Yes, but first with 18 years 0 0%
dont know, dont care 0 0%
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Old 02-05-2010, 11:41 PM
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I couldnt think of one democratic country that would forbid a child us citizenship if (only) one parant were american? If this were the case, why would you marry a foreignor?

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Like President Ronald Reagan once said: "Government is not the solution to the problem. Government IS the problem."

If this is so, why did Reagan hang around 8 years. He was part of the problem. Did he make the government smaller or reduce the federal debt. Yes he did. ha ha ha.
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Sheesh, is right

We all know how much you love giving taxpayers dollars to free-riders but you are incorrect with your citizenship by birth info:


http://www.citizenship.gov.au/_pdf/aci/chapter2.pdf

To become a permanent resident, you have to comply with the law - obtain visas, etc.

Generally (I say generally because, like most govt legislation, there are a number of exceptions, loopholes, etc) children of people living illegally in Australia, are not given automatic citizenship.
I do not agree with that law, Tues.

IMO if a baby is born in Australian, it is an Australian citizen and we have a duty to care for that child, and their parents.
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Makedde,

you keep making a STATEMENT but not an arguement. Why dont you just say that you dont have a rational arguement for awarding criminals (the baby is also a criminal) with american citiizenship but your just a woman. Then I can understand where your coming from.
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Of course but you need to understand that ppl b/c of circumstances have Visas run out. My mom coming to this country didn't know any English or how the system worked. She had no mode of transportation and since it was the 80s there was no internet so she could research for herself how to renew Visas. Also she was hosptalized 1 week before my birth so should couldn't leave the hospital anyways. I say if your Visa expires you should get a grace period of a year. I also believe regular officers should have information about whether ppl have expired Visas or no. They can detain them until ICE arrives.

Things happen, it doesn't mean you punish an unborn child because of it. An unborn child who excels in school, graduates college, and owns a business at 22. An unborn child that pay plenty to taxes and has the same rights as you.
OK, you make a good point...stuff happens, so I'll agree that there might be a grace period of 30 days, but more than that and it really isn't a grace period. By the way, congratulations on making a good life for yourself!
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Isnt getting pregnant a 9 month thing? Didnt the woman have enough time to resubmit the paperwork? Throw her out of the usa. We dont need people who cant apply by the rules of law. Hard but fair.
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I agree with the idea that the child and the parents as well should get citizenship, or at the very least some type of program should be set up for the parents to make sure that the child is raised with all the opportunities he/she needs.
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I agree with the idea that the child and the parents as well should get citizenship, or at the very least some type of program should be set up for the parents to make sure that the child is raised with all the opportunities he/she needs.
Wow, that is generous of you...what is your strategy for stopping the flow of illegal immigrants then? I think eliminating the incentives is far better then what many countries do - shoot them.
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I agree with franklin,

The same people who claim that illegal migrants are taking advantage of our soicial system, want to turn them into legal americans with even more rights.

This does not sound ration, but were in internet so its not so important.

Im in favor of a clear message:

1) the door is wide open to everyone or
2) the US has the right to decide who comes in and who stays out!

My personal tipp, those who break the law getting in, should be booted out forever and ever. Why should America reward criminals with american citizenship?
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you keep making a STATEMENT but not an arguement. Why dont you just say that you dont have a rational arguement for awarding criminals (the baby is also a criminal) with american citiizenship but your just a woman. Then I can understand where your coming from.
What is your problem with women, Benny? Your attitude is getting rather tiring and I'd like you to quit it.

I have said I have an argument for my opinion. Its just that - an opinion. You dont always have to come up with an argument to support it. I havent and I cant. I believe what I believe and thats it.
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I didnt know that this was a woman issue? I thought it was a political issue.

I think its great that you cant define why you feel the way you do. Its just emotional. I will try to avoid talking directly to you on this one issue. Ok?
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