Thread: Ambitious plans to cut immigration

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lol, i have been in London , it gets submerged by south Asian immigrants..

personally , i think Cameroon feels a bit dejected cause the task concerning immigrants seems too taxing

Doesn't it strike people as strange that just within the last two decades we've seen nearly every western country plagued with this problem.
And in nearly every case the legal citizens are demanding for it to be stopped, while their rogue governments refuse to do so.
Are we supposed to believe that this is all coincidence?

You don't see this in Israel or Japan.

Yet the governments of each and every western nation are in lock step defying the will of their citizens!

How can it be that every one of these governments is compromised in unison?

Originally Posted by Whale

Doesn't it strike people as strange that just within the last two decades we've seen nearly every western country plagued with this problem.
And in nearly every case the legal citizens are demanding for it to be stopped, while their rogue governments refuse to do so.
Are we supposed to believe that this is all coincidence?

You don't see this in Israel or Japan.

Yet the governments of each and every western nation are in lock step defying the will of their citizens!

How can it be that every one of these governments is compromised in unison?

In Britain it was a deliberate plan engineered by the then Socialist government and ascertained by the media from the release of government papers under the Freedom of Information Act.

Originally Posted by Whale

Doesn't it strike people as strange that just within the last two decades we've seen nearly every western country plagued with this problem.
And in nearly every case the legal citizens are demanding for it to be stopped, while their rogue governments refuse to do so.
Are we supposed to believe that this is all coincidence?

You don't see this in Israel or Japan.

Yet the governments of each and every western nation are in lock step defying the will of their citizens!

How can it be that every one of these governments is compromised in unison?

as i said in many other threads, western countries are income maximizers, immigration is one of the ways to achieve that goal.

However, problem is that it makes indegineous people to see so many illegal aliens, cause they share little in common

Originally Posted by Beevee

In Britain it was a deliberate plan engineered by the then Socialist government and ascertained by the media from the release of government papers under the Freedom of Information Act.

It's a deliberate plot in every one of these countries.
It's a plot against capitalism.

Take money from legal citizens to pay for social programs given to illegals in order to support a black market cheap labor force.

The citizens of California passed a proposition to deny illegals all social programs, a corrupt judge overturned it.

As I say it's communism.
Just like in communist countries the will of the legal citizens is squelched and their incomes are redistributed.

The road to pure communism.

Granny says sentence `em to live inna trailer park where there's lotsa Hispexicans playin' dat loud-ass mariachi music all hours of the day an' night...

138 U.S. Customs and Border Personnel Arrested For Corruption Since 2004
May 18, 2012 - There have been 138 U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) employees arrested since 2004 for engaging in acts of corruption including drug and alien smuggling, in part, due to Mexican drug cartel influence.

During the same period, over 2,000 CBP employees, which include Border Patrol and Customs agents, have been charged for criminal acts other than corruption including off-duty behavior. CBP is a component of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS). Thomas Winkowski, acting deputy commissioner for CBP, made these revelations in written testimony provided to the House Homeland Security Subcommittee on Oversight, Investigations, and Management on May 17 during a hearing examining ethical standards at DHS.

According to Charles Edwards, the DHS inspector general who testified alongside the CBP deputy commissioner, the influence of Mexican drug cartels has reached into the ranks of CBP and contributed to corruption at the agency. “While the overwhelming majority serve with honor and integrity, a small minority have disgraced the agency and betrayed the trust of the American public and their fellow CBP employees by engaging in illegal and unethical behavior,” testified Winkowski. “Since October 1, 2004, 138 CBP employees have been arrested or indicted for acts of corruption including drug smuggling, alien smuggling, money laundering, and conspiracy. During this same period, more than 2,000 CBP employees have been charged in other criminal misconduct, including off duty behavior that serves to undermine the confidence of the public that we serve,” he said.

CBP employs about 60,000 people, of which 40,000 work at the U.S. borders. In early June 2011, then-CBP Commissioner Alan Bersin told a Senate panel that “127 CBP personnel have been arrested, charged or convicted of corruption” since 2004. That means that over the last year, there have been at least 11 CBP employees arrested for corruption when taking into consideration the most recent testimony of 138 agency personnel arrested since 2004.

Edwards told the panel on May 17 that the corrupting tentacles of the Mexican drug cartels have reached inside CBP. “The drug trafficking organizations have turned to recruiting and corrupting DHS employees,” Edwards testified in his prepared remarks. “The obvious targets of corruption are Border Patrol agents and Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officers who can facilitate and aid in smuggling; less obvious are those employees who can provide access to sensitive law enforcement and intelligence information, allowing the cartels to track investigative activity or vet their members against law enforcement databases,” he added.

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Granny says, "Hrmph - just goes to show what he don't know...

Bloomberg: ‘Nobody Has Come Across the [U.S.-Mexico] Border in a Long Time'
August 20, 2012 - New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg said last week that "nobody" had illegal crossed the U.S.-Mexico border in a "long time."

Bloomberg also advised that it would be easier for those wishing to illegally immigrate to the United States to simply buy a ticket to fly here and then overstay their visa. Jerry Seib of The Wall Street Journal, who moderated the event, asked Bloomberg, “... My sister lives in Amarillo, Texas, and they’re very worried about waves coming up north over the border there. What are you going to tell them?”

“Number one nobody has come across the border in a long time,” responded the mayor. “I mean we spend a fortune on technology, and if you want to come to America illegally, don’t waste your time going across the border and through the desert. It’s dangerous. Just get on an airplane, fly here, and overstay your visa. We have absolutely no ability to track who you are and get you back.

“The total number of undocumented in this country has been going down for a long time. How do we solve the problem? We solved the problem by having our economy crater,” he continued. “People don’t come here to put their feet up and collect welfare. They come here to work, and if there’s no jobs, they don’t come here, and if they’re here and they can’t find a job, they go back home, because America is not a very good place to sit around and think the state is going to support you.” However, a report by the Center for Immigration Studies released earlier this month, citing U.S. Census data, showed that 43 percent of immigrants, both legal and illegal, who have been residing in the U.S. for at least 20 years were on welfare.

During the discussion, Bloomberg did point out that the U.S. must be “vigilante” against foreign terrorists overstaying their visas. Some of the 911 hijackers were visa overstays.He was speaking in Boston at an Aug. 14 forum on immigration sponsored by the New England Council. He shared the stage for the forum with News Corporation Chairman and CEO Rupert Murdoch. The moderator asked the mayor, “What about people’s fears that immigrants might be terrorists?”

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Originally Posted by NewOrder

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Ambitious plans to cut immigration

A new, nowhere-supported myth. An immigration including an illegal immigration is a good and profitable business.

Granny says don't believe it till ya see it...

AP Source: Senate plan to stiffen border security
Apr 10,`13 WASHINGTON (AP) -- A bipartisan group of senators finalizing a landmark immigration bill has agreed to require greatly increased surveillance of the border and apprehensions of people trying to cross it, a person familiar with the proposals said Wednesday.

The legislation, to be released within days, would call for surveillance of 100 percent of the U.S. border with Mexico and apprehension of 90 percent of people trying to cross in certain high-risk areas. People living here illegally could begin to get green cards in 10 years but only if a new southern border security plan is in place, employers have adopted mandatory electronic verification of their workers' legal status and a new electronic exit system is operating at airports and seaports. The person provided the information on condition of anonymity because the deliberations were private.

The contours of the tough new border security plans emerged as senators moved closer to unveiling sweeping legislation that would put some 11 million immigrants living here illegally on a path to citizenship and allow tens of thousands of high- and low-skilled workers into the country on new visa programs, in addition to securing the border. Lawmakers and aides said all the major elements were complete, or close to. A final deal was near on a new visa for agriculture workers. There were small details to be dealt with on visas for high-tech workers, but Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., said it wasn't enough to hold up the bill. "We are closer now than we have been in 25 years for serious immigration reform," Durbin told reporters Wednesday after he and other Democrats in the Senate negotiating group briefed members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus. "This president is behind it, and there is a strong, growing bipartisan effort in the Senate to support it. We hope that the House will do the same."

Meanwhile tens of thousands of pro-immigration activists massed outside the Capitol and in cities around the country to push Congress to act. They waved American flags and carried signs reading, "Reform immigration for America now!" The border security piece of the legislation is critical to getting support from Republicans, but some Democrats have opposed making a path to citizenship contingent on border security. Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said that the new requirements wouldn't impede citizenship. "A lot of people here would not want to put dollars into the border, but as a price to get citizenship, as long as it's not an impediment to citizenship but rather works alongside citizenship, it's something we can all live with," Schumer said, after talking to the Hispanic House members. "What we've said all along is triggers have to be objective and attainable in a way it doesn't interfere or delay with people becoming citizens, and that's in the bill."

According to the person familiar with the proposals, the new border security requirements call for 100 percent surveillance of the entire border, and apprehending 90 percent of border crossers or would-be crossers - or getting them to turn back to Mexico - in sectors where the majority of unauthorized entries take place.

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Granny says, "Dat's all?? - dat ain't gonna put even a dent in our immigration problem...

Mexico detains 108 after sweeps by federal police
Mon, Apr 29, 2013 - Mexican authorities said on Saturday they detained 108 undocumented immigrants along highways, at bus stations and on a cargo train route that thousands of Central Americans use every year to cross Mexico and enter the US illegally.

Ninety five Central Americans, mostly from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, were detained in the southern states of Oaxaca and Tabasco during sweeps by federal police, Mexico’s migration institute said in a statement. Seven of the Central Americans were children, the institute said. An increasing number of Central Americans are sneaking across Mexico’s largely unpoliced southern border en route to the US. Migrants have been spurred on by rampant poverty and rising drug gang violence in their home countries.

Citizens of other countries are also risking the dangerous route across southern Mexico. Eight people from India and five from Bangladesh were also detained in the southern Mexican police sweeps. US President Barack Obama is to travel to Mexico and Central America this week, and his talks with leaders will likely include prospects for a sweeping reform of US immigration laws and efforts to reduce the tide of undocumented immigrants.

The US Senate, which is controlled by Obama’s Democrats, is pushing ahead on a bipartisan bill that would bolster border security and put 11 million people living illegally in the US on a 13-year path to citizenship. However, the legislation faces a challenge in the Republican-controlled US House of Representatives.

The number of undocumented Central Americans deported from the US has risen in recent years. Nearly 95,000 people from the region were deported from the US last year compared to about 78,500 in 2011, according to US Immigration and Customs Enforcement data. Most of the migrants were from El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala, where gang violence has increased in recent years. Mass detentions of Central Americans in Mexico are common, but authorities have been criticized for lax enforcement at the border. Police are accused of exploiting migrants for bribes, while local gangs regularly kidnap migrants and seek ransoms from their relatives.

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